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^ Yes, I agree. Futhermore, back in the sixties too many folkies were going in this direction, with technically pleasant voices:-
To me Dylan's was the anguished voice of the individual, cutting through a lot of sugared-up junk. I was eleven years old when I first heard this song coming out of a neighbour's radio set; so startling that I still remember the moment:-
Dylan actually has an under-ratedly good voice imo, though I don't like the poor guy's croaking in recent years.
I always considered The Rooftop Singers and Kingston Trio as the cool side of the American Folk Revival. Peter, Paul and Mary as the Pop side. They (PP&M) played Nylon string guitars for Pete's sake. There is no nylon in Folk. You won't find a nylon guitar playing in Country Blues or Olde Timey or traditional Appalachian Folk music. I was undecided about Bob, and bit suspicious if he was just jumping on the bandwagon with Folk. I seen a doc about him and I guess he was legit. He came across as a music lover.
Walk Right In is amazing, you have to hear it in full to get the 12 string work, in some small way it changed the face of music. (Erik Darling from The Rooftop Singers is one of my music heroes.)
The Rooftop Singers "Walk Right In"
Kingston Trio-Scotch & Soda
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I always considered The Rooftop Singers and Kingston Trio as the cool side of the American Folk Revival. Peter, Paul and Mary as the Pop side. They (PP&M) played Nylon string guitars for Pete's sake. There is no nylon in Folk. You won't find a nylon guitar playing in Country Blues or Olde Timey or traditional Appalachian Folk music. I was undecided about Bob, and bit suspicious if he was just jumping on the bandwagon with Folk. I seen a doc about him and I guess he was legit. He came across as a music lover.
Walk Right In is amazing, you have to hear it in full to get the 12 string work, in some small way it changed the face of music. (Erik Darling from The Rooftop Singers is one of my music heroes.)
^ HaHa! Nothing wrong with being serious about music though. That's what brought most of us here in the first place isn't it?
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I always considered The Rooftop Singers and Kingston Trio as the cool side of the American Folk Revival. Peter, Paul and Mary as the Pop side. They (PP&M) played Nylon string guitars for Pete's sake. There is no nylon in Folk. You won't find a nylon guitar playing in Country Blues or Olde Timey or traditional Appalachian Folk music. I was undecided about Bob, and bit suspicious if he was just jumping on the bandwagon with Folk. I seen a doc about him and I guess he was legit. He came across as a music lover.
^ Thanks for that curious detail about strings, Neapolitan; it's something that would never have occured to me !
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Walk Right In is amazing, you have to hear it in full to get the 12 string work, in some small way it changed the face of music. (Erik Darling from The Rooftop Singers is one of my music heroes.)
The Rooftop Singers "Walk Right In"
Kingston Trio-Scotch & Soda
^ Walk Right In certainly has something special about it; prior to yesterday, I probably hadn't heard it for about 40 years, but I could recall it just like that - the tune the title and all.
Sorry; in my enthusiasm for Dylan I was a bit too quick to dismiss other '60s American folk singers, who perhaps I should explore a bit more. Apart from a few hardcore Greenwich Villagers like Dave Van Ronk and Richard Fariña, I don't know much about them.
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I'm sorry you both had such negative experiences at your Dylan concerts; I guess the truth is that as a live artist, Dylan is way past his prime. He has been performing live for over fifty-five years, and since 1988 has maintained a gruelling pace of concerts with the so-called The Never Ending Tour, though he himself doesn't like the misuse of that term:-
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"Don't be bewildered by the Never Ending Tour chatter. There was a Never Ending Tour but it ended in 1991...that one's long gone but there have been many others since then: "The Money Never Runs Out Tour", "Southern Sympathizer Tour", "Why Do You Look At Me So Strangely Tour", "The One Sad Cry Of Pity Tour", "Outburst Of Consciousness Tour", "Don't Let Your Deal Go Down Tour" and others, too many to mention each with their own character & design.
"Critics should know there is no such thing as forever. Does anybody call Henry Ford a Never Ending Car Builder? Anybody ever say that Duke Ellington was on a Never Ending Bandstand Tour? These days, people are lucky to have a job. Any job. So critics might be uncomfortable with my working so much. Anybody with a trade can work as long as they want. A carpenter, an electrician. They don't necessarily need to retire."
As Bob compares himself to a carpenter, perhaps we should take heed; if you hire a carpenter who's 75 years old, don't be surprised if your shelves are wobbly.
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I've yet to warm up to Bob Dylan's voice, I've tried multiple times, and will try again one day, but it hasn't clicked yet.
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Walk Right In is amazing, you have to hear it in full to get the 12 string work, in some small way it changed the face of music.
Not quite as magical as the Rooftop Singer's version, but Wanda Jackson's take of Walk Right In is a pretty cool to hear.
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You won't find a nylon guitar playing in Country Blues
Not trying to throw out an "I told you so" or anything, your comment is true 99% of the time, but it made me think of Jerry Reed and how incredibly well he was able to incoporate nylon string guitar into country and blues. It ain't country blues in a Big Bill Broonzy kind of way but Jerry Reed has recorded some of the greatest country blues of all time using nylon string.
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There's 3 reason why the Rolling Stones are better. I'm going to list them here. 1. Jimi Hendrix from Rolling Stones was a better guitarist then Jimmy Page 2. The bassist from Rolling Stones isn't dead 3. Rolling Stobes wrote Stairway to Heaven and The Ocean so we all know they are superior here.
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