Suggestions for a 14yr old rock fan pleeeease

Mucha na Dziko · 05-11-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm not much of a fan of later Stones either.

you mean you're only fan of the 60s Stones?

The Batlord · 05-11-2021, 01:49 PM

Yup.

Trollheart · 05-12-2021, 08:41 PM

Hmm. Nick Cave eh? Well now I love him but I wonder if he'd be in your general boulevard of enjoyment. Most of his songs are quite dark and deal with violent themes (not all but a lot) and his early stuff can be quite chaotic. Personally, if you're gonna explore Cave I'd recommend a lantern on your helmet and a pickaxe, but if you're gonna explore the music of Nick Cave I'd go for
The Boatman's Call
Henry's Dream
The Good Son
Murder Ballads
And No More Shall We Part
Let Love In

then his more recent stuff like
The Skeleton Tree
Push the Sky Away
(I have yet to listen to Ghosteen)

Anything else might be a case of personal taste, but I'm still working on those.

Also if you find you like Cave and aren't already familiar with him you might want to check out Tom Waits. Could be a shock though. Try
Heartattack and Vine
Blue Valentine
Small Change
to ease you in

then go for
Rain Dogs
Swordfishtrombones
and on from there

**Marie Monday** · 05-13-2021, 01:57 AM

I can't add any depth to Trollheart's thorough advice (and I only know a few of his albums anyway) but since it's supremely beautiful a good song to start with may be

Trollheart · 05-13-2021, 05:29 AM

It's a funny thing about that/those albums - the two were released together and I really like The Lyre of Orpheus but found Abattoir Blues not so good. I think the former is all the slower, ballad-like songs which is probably why I like it better. I also found Dig, Lazarus, Dig! a big disappointment.

Eleanor Rigby 14 · 05-31-2021, 09:00 AM

I don't really think that Nick Cave is really my cup of tea

Another band I'm really into right now (although I already mentioned that I like them) are the Bee Gees. I know that many people don't like them (or don't want to admit it) because there's the general thought that they only made disco music, that they were just a commercial product, etc. And although I've always liked the disco stuff and the early hit "To Love Somebody", I recently discovered many of their early songs and I really like them, being "I Started A Joke" my favourite one. I know many songs by them but never listened to a full album.
Apart from that, I had no idea that 2 songs that I love, Woman in Love by Barbra Streisand and Heartbreaker by Dionne Warwick, had been written by them, so that has just made me have a more positive opinion.
So my question was, what do youthink about the Bee Gees, and which album do you think is their best one.
Edit:
My favourite Bee Gees songs:
New York Mining Disaster 1941
To Love Somebody
I've Gotta Get A Message To You
Massachussets
Words
I Started A Joke
How Can You Mend A Broken Heart
You Should Be Dancing
Night Fever
Stayin' Alive
How Deep Is Your Love
Too Much Heaven
Tragedy

Trollheart · 05-31-2021, 09:49 AM

"Massachusetts" for the win. Also check out Barry and Streisand on "Guilty", written the three Bee Gees.

Then there's "Emotion" made a hit by Samantha Song but also recorded by them in 1977

Eleanor Rigby 14 · 05-31-2021, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

"Massachusetts" for the win. Also check out Barry and Streisand on "Guilty", written the three Bee Gees.

Then there's "Emotion" made a hit by Samantha Song but also recorded by them in 1977

Both are OK, although I prefer Guilty. Cool songs

Eleanor Rigby 14 · 05-31-2021, 11:20 AM

Also, what do you think about their album Odessa?
Is it OK?
P.S. I'm starting to think an official Bee Gees thread is necessary here

**Marie Monday** · 05-31-2021, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleanor Rigby 14

I don't really think that Nick Cave is really my cup of tea

That doesn't surprise me, re: the darkness and violence Trollheart mentioned. To be honest I like Nick Cave but I'm not that into him, although he has some fantastic stuff and I love his older band The Birthday Party

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

It's a funny thing about that/those albums - the two were released together and I really like The Lyre of Orpheus but found Abattoir Blues not so good. I think the former is all the slower, ballad-like songs which is probably why I like it better. I also found Dig, Lazarus, Dig! a big disappointment.

I haven't listened to the whole album(s) that much and it's been a while, so I don't have a very distinct idea of it, but they definitely have a very different feel. Funnily enough I think I like the Lyre of Orpheus better. My favourite Nick Cave album is Let Love In, I haven't given many of his others a proper chance but maybe I should

05-12-2021, 08:41 PM	#393 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Hmm. Nick Cave eh? Well now I love him but I wonder if he'd be in your general boulevard of enjoyment. Most of his songs are quite dark and deal with violent themes (not all but a lot) and his early stuff can be quite chaotic. Personally, if you're gonna explore Cave I'd recommend a lantern on your helmet and a pickaxe, but if you're gonna explore the music of Nick Cave I'd go for The Boatman's Call Henry's Dream The Good Son Murder Ballads And No More Shall We Part Let Love In then his more recent stuff like The Skeleton Tree Push the Sky Away (I have yet to listen to Ghosteen) Anything else might be a case of personal taste, but I'm still working on those. Also if you find you like Cave and aren't already familiar with him you might want to check out Tom Waits. Could be a shock though. Try Heartattack and Vine Blue Valentine Small Change to ease you in then go for Rain Dogs Swordfishtrombones and on from there __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

05-13-2021, 05:29 AM	#395 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	It's a funny thing about that/those albums - the two were released together and I really like The Lyre of Orpheus but found Abattoir Blues not so good. I think the former is all the slower, ballad-like songs which is probably why I like it better. I also found Dig, Lazarus, Dig! a big disappointment. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

05-31-2021, 09:00 AM	#396 (permalink)
Eleanor Rigby 14 Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 413	I don't really think that Nick Cave is really my cup of tea Another band I'm really into right now (although I already mentioned that I like them) are the Bee Gees. I know that many people don't like them (or don't want to admit it) because there's the general thought that they only made disco music, that they were just a commercial product, etc. And although I've always liked the disco stuff and the early hit "To Love Somebody", I recently discovered many of their early songs and I really like them, being "I Started A Joke" my favourite one. I know many songs by them but never listened to a full album. Apart from that, I had no idea that 2 songs that I love, Woman in Love by Barbra Streisand and Heartbreaker by Dionne Warwick, had been written by them, so that has just made me have a more positive opinion. So my question was, what do youthink about the Bee Gees, and which album do you think is their best one. Edit: My favourite Bee Gees songs: New York Mining Disaster 1941 To Love Somebody I've Gotta Get A Message To You Massachussets Words I Started A Joke How Can You Mend A Broken Heart You Should Be Dancing Night Fever Stayin' Alive How Deep Is Your Love Too Much Heaven Tragedy Last edited by Eleanor Rigby 14; 05-31-2021 at 09:07 AM.

05-31-2021, 09:49 AM	#397 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	"Massachusetts" for the win. Also check out Barry and Streisand on "Guilty", written the three Bee Gees. Then there's "Emotion" made a hit by Samantha Song but also recorded by them in 1977 __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

05-31-2021, 11:20 AM	#399 (permalink)
Eleanor Rigby 14 Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 413	Also, what do you think about their album Odessa? Is it OK? P.S. I'm starting to think an official Bee Gees thread is necessary here Last edited by Eleanor Rigby 14; 05-31-2021 at 01:04 PM.