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View Poll Results: Lennon-McCartney vs Waters-Gilmour vs Page-Plant
Lennon-McCartney (The Beatles) 10 90.91%
Waters-Gilmour (Pink Floyd) 1 9.09%
Page-Plant (Led Zeppelin) 0 0%
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Old 01-12-2021, 11:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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In the later years they did, but during the first half of their run their songwriting was definitely intertwined.
Good point.
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Old 01-12-2021, 11:40 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Seems like we have a clear winner.

Should I close the thread/poll, then?
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Old 01-12-2021, 11:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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you may close the poll if you want to but if not you can just leave it, no worries
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OK, thanks, I don't know how do things work in a forum. I joined yesterday!
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Old 01-12-2021, 12:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 01-12-2021, 12:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Sorry, can't do it
What do you mean? You mean it's difficult to choose?

2000000 years later Waters-Gilmour and Page-Plant still don't have a single vote...
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Old 01-10-2022, 04:05 AM   #17 (permalink)
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It’s funny how the Beatles don’t get as much love around here as Floyd and Zepp, but when it was time to vote, they murder stomp the others


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Really, it’s not a question of who do you like best, but a one about who was - as objectively as you can - best

And as much as people can have different tastes, to say that Gilmour/Waters or Page/Plant were better songwriters, or better „songwriting teams” than Lennon-McCartney is fairly absurd

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2000000 years later Waters-Gilmour and Page-Plant still don't have a single vote...
And quite possibly in 2000000 they’ll be forgotten by posteriority, while Lennon/McCartney will still thrive.

It’s a bit like a Mozart/Salieri thing I think

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In the later years they did, but during the first half of their run their songwriting was definitely intertwined.
Actually the Get Back documentary shows a different picture.
Like Lennon/McCartney were working together on „Gimme Some Truth” and „I’ve Got A Feeling”.

Taking what Lennon was saying after the break-up aside, it seems they didn’t change the process much in the later years.

Like, you can’t actually write a song together with someone else. You need to have an idea that your partner will develop on.

Another example would be „Come Together”. Lennon wrote the lyrics and chords, but it was McCartney who came up with the bassline (which is the most iconic element of that song). If that’s not writing in team, then I don’t know what is.

And like, yeah, sure, they probably spent more time together in the early years, but a quick fact check actually proves they complimented each other as songwriters all throughout.
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Old 01-10-2022, 06:19 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Maybe comparing Lennon-McCartney with Gilmour- Waters/Page-Plant isn't the right comparison. Maybe it wouldn't be so lopsided compared to say Jagger- Richards or Strummer-Jones. Oh, don't get me wrong, Lennon- McCartney would win that one too, but maybe the opposition would garner more than one vote. Just a guess though.
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Yes, r-s, I'd definitely say that Jagger-Richards would have been a good choice for comparison with Len-Mac - and although they weren't part of a rock group, Goffin-King were very much competitors of The Beatles too. From 1961, the two songwriting teams were both fighting for space in the pop charts: same years, same genre, which is not quite the case with the P Floyd and Led Zep teams.

Here's a list of songs to make my case, and to remind some of us of just how many classic hits Goffin-King wrote together:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Gerry_Goffin

Something I learnt from the list: when the Byrds sang "Wasn't Born To Follow", they were indeed following - they were following G-K's words and music.

@ Eleanor: This is a great thread because it's got people talking about music. Don't feel bad if people are grumbling about your poll; that's the kind of stuff we love to do on MB.
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True, just what they wrote for the Monkees alone (Pleasant Valley Sunday, Porpoise Song) would rate them among the great songwriting duos. The Byrds were also another band who seemed to like Goffin-King when they weren't doing their Dylan interpretations (Goin Back being another favorite of mine). Goin Back incidentally was also recorded by Dusty Springfield and is about as good as the Byrds' version.
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