tell me where i am slipping up (lyrics, punk, tunes)

tambo · 11-29-2005, 08:54 AM

i have a bit of a problem. When I write a song, I have the beat in my head for it. I then write the words of the song along the beat, and then the words often become second place to the beat. This is a big problem for me. If you look at one of the songs I have wrote (My punk Romance) in my head that sounds really good, with a good beat, but as always the beats overshadows it and lyrically it fails. This is not because I am a bad lyricist. Poems I have written in the past have been given great praise and one has even been published. So then-what is going wrong? I'm a good lyricist and the backing beats that I create are good and catchy. But when I put the 2 together something always ends up going wrong. Please help me.

DontRunMeOver · 11-29-2005, 09:17 AM

You could try getting the beats down, with the rough lyrics and tunes and then completely re-working the lyrics and tune. The hardest part about writing lyrics is probably finding your starting point/theme and a hook to go with it. If you've already got these then reworking, reworking and reworking would be your best bet.

tambo · 11-29-2005, 09:41 AM

the only thing is I haven't got any tools to get the beat down. usually when i rework the lyrics the beat gets messed up. I have tried to do what you have said, getting my rough lyrics down and then the beat, then reworking the lyrics over this. but then it just ends up in a jumbled mess and what was a good beat and bad lyrics ends up in good lyrics with a bad beat. i am pretty good at each thing individually, but when i join them together they seem to get messed up. this is really important to me to get this right as it is what i would like to follow as a career. anyway, thanks for the help. by the way-i come from birmingham in england. where abouts do you live?

madeinNY · 11-29-2005, 11:35 AM

Try this....get some lyrics in your head first, then do a beat for the lyrics...it's kind of like what you're doing, but backwards...

Hey, it might work.

tambo · 11-29-2005, 12:09 PM

ok yeah thanks. I'll do what you guys say

madeinNY · 11-29-2005, 12:10 PM

Haha, you don't have to do all that, now get up off your knees, you're fine.

11-29-2005, 08:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
tambo Groupie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 18	tell me where i am slipping up i have a bit of a problem. When I write a song, I have the beat in my head for it. I then write the words of the song along the beat, and then the words often become second place to the beat. This is a big problem for me. If you look at one of the songs I have wrote (My punk Romance) in my head that sounds really good, with a good beat, but as always the beats overshadows it and lyrically it fails. This is not because I am a bad lyricist. Poems I have written in the past have been given great praise and one has even been published. So then-what is going wrong? I'm a good lyricist and the backing beats that I create are good and catchy. But when I put the 2 together something always ends up going wrong. Please help me.

11-29-2005, 09:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
tambo Groupie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 18	' the only thing is I haven't got any tools to get the beat down. usually when i rework the lyrics the beat gets messed up. I have tried to do what you have said, getting my rough lyrics down and then the beat, then reworking the lyrics over this. but then it just ends up in a jumbled mess and what was a good beat and bad lyrics ends up in good lyrics with a bad beat. i am pretty good at each thing individually, but when i join them together they seem to get messed up. this is really important to me to get this right as it is what i would like to follow as a career. anyway, thanks for the help. by the way-i come from birmingham in england. where abouts do you live?

11-29-2005, 11:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
madeinNY [[la de da diddy da]] Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NY...duh. Posts: 444	Try this....get some lyrics in your head first, then do a beat for the lyrics...it's kind of like what you're doing, but backwards... Hey, it might work. __________________ I cleared out my PM box...I promise. lol

11-29-2005, 12:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
tambo Groupie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 18	'' ok yeah thanks. I'll do what you guys say

11-29-2005, 12:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
madeinNY [[la de da diddy da]] Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NY...duh. Posts: 444	Haha, you don't have to do all that, now get up off your knees, you're fine. __________________ I cleared out my PM box...I promise. lol

11-29-2005, 09:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
DontRunMeOver They call me Tundra Boy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In your linen cupboard. Posts: 1,166	You could try getting the beats down, with the rough lyrics and tunes and then completely re-working the lyrics and tune. The hardest part about writing lyrics is probably finding your starting point/theme and a hook to go with it. If you've already got these then reworking, reworking and reworking would be your best bet.