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TheCaster 12-14-2007 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by acenoface (Post 422290)
lyrics are written for the ears, poetry is written for the eyes, and both have rules


undisciplined lyrics may not be able to be sung, but they are 20 times better..

and ocne again songwriting is NOT A SCIENCE there is no rules. you can revise lyrics or build a song around lyrics.... i garuntee you no matter how much you say that these lyrics cant be sung, i will not only figure out a way to sing them but put a guitar behind it...

jackhammer 12-14-2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by acenoface (Post 422290)
lyrics are written for the ears, poetry is written for the eyes, and both have rules

Lyrics are written for the mind to digest. Poetry is written for the mind to digest.

acenoface 12-14-2007 05:45 PM

I think Sheila Davis, PhDauthor of The Craft of Lyric Writing and others would disagree

jackhammer 12-14-2007 06:02 PM

Would she? I have never read her lyrics. Lyrics are intrinsically linked with the music that accompanies them. As her name doesnt mean shít to me, I will stand by my original statement,

acenoface 12-14-2007 06:57 PM

If there were no rules to songwriting, why would Berklee School of Music offer several courses in, and a certificate, in songwriting? Why would books on music and lyric theory be so popular?

jackhammer 12-14-2007 07:02 PM

Profit?

TheCaster 12-14-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 422321)
Would she? I have never read her lyrics. Lyrics are intrinsically linked with the music that accompanies them. As her name doesnt mean shít to me, I will stand by my original statement,


your my ****ing hero dude...

TheCaster 12-14-2007 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by acenoface (Post 422349)
If there were no rules to songwriting, why would Berklee School of Music offer several courses in, and a certificate, in songwriting? Why would books on music and lyric theory be so popular?

because of a bunch of dip****s that try to turn songwriting into something that can be understood...


show me any great lyricist that has any kind of degree in songwriting...

Ace 12-15-2007 02:32 AM

The problem here is that you put too much faith in Berklee, as if it's supposed to impress us that you've attended such courses. Lyrics only need to have good structure, and in my opinion, be made to make you think. They can rhyme, or they can ramble on, but they do not need to look like something out of a local nursery rhyme. I'm not putting you down in any way, I'm just saying, try less rhyming with your work. It may sound good with music put to it to you, but keep in mind, we don't hear how you wrote it. We interpret it for ourselves. Read it for yourself as if someone else had wrote it. The rhyming really is a bad trait.

Kevorkian Logic 12-15-2007 07:04 AM

acenoface. Amazing things tend to come naturally, you can learn how to inmate a style of writing lyrics out of a book, but you can't learn how to make truly unique captivating lyrics out of a book. You just can't.



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