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Old 10-21-2005, 05:53 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Does stairway to heaven have one? im really asking here, im trying to remeber, and what constitues a refrain? Does Bohemian Rhapsody? Iron Man?
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Old 10-21-2005, 06:05 PM   #52 (permalink)
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i guess i just like simetry in songs...as in everything in life...i'm strange that way
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Old 10-21-2005, 06:24 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Songs without refrains seem kind of unfinished to me
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Old 10-22-2005, 04:46 AM   #54 (permalink)
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well.. you could have like a riff that repeats every now and then and that could be your chorus... all songs have that. almost all of them, anyway.. the words can change all the time, but there's that sound that keeps repeating
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:16 AM   #55 (permalink)
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In stairway the "and it makes me wonder" kind of constitutes a refrain and Rhapsody gets by because right the way through its such an amazing song. But yeah, if you cant think of a refrain then generally your screwed
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:17 AM   #56 (permalink)
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and can som1 tell me why my picture never appears after my posts or can i just not see it because its mine????????
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:20 AM   #57 (permalink)
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basically anything marylin manson has ever written, sang or covered
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Old 10-23-2005, 10:17 AM   #58 (permalink)
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What's with all of the dots? Do you keep drifting in and out of conciousness?
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:59 AM   #59 (permalink)
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you have to have 50 post. stop asking that question
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Old 10-24-2005, 08:31 AM   #60 (permalink)
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So Im writing this song and the refrain is a bitch (as always) to come up with. What are your opinions of refrains, or songs without them? Let me hear your thoughts, and if you know any, let me know.
The refrain shouldn't be that hard to come up with. Repetition and simplicity are generally key in writing good refrains - which is pretty unexciting from the writer and performer's viewpoints but will result in the song sounding better. If you come up with some unique hook lyrics, melodic intervals and rhythmic motifs then you'll be part way there.

The best approach is probably to get a few basic ideas together and them play them each to a few friends. The refrain tune which has your audience jumping off their seats is the one that you want to use!
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