i think he had a triple double lol

The Spurs were leading in double digits the entire game. lol

He did not show up at all.

It was by the grace of God and a couple of dirty refs as to why they won that game in the last .5 seconds...

I've taken several debate classes and had years of speech/debate.

http://i.imgur.com/OOA8QzF.jpg

Show me on that chart (I have this chart at the top of my bookmarks, as I have a passion for debate) what fallacies I've done and give concrete examples of where they were so I can fix it. Except there are none because my argument is basic common sense.

Besides ad hominem.

i repeat he had a trip doub


it wasnt his best game


which is funny cause it was still a trip doub

I can't keep up with this thread. Slow down!

So he has a trip doub in every final series?

People who blame the refs for the result of a game fail. It's such a cop-out. The refs aren't Jesus Christ, so get over it.

I watched that game, and when they reviewed ray allen's three, Tim Duncan illegally substituted in the game and THE REFS never issued a technical foul on the Spurs because they didn't notice it.

And anyway, Duncan also should have been IN THE GAME TO GET REBOUNDS so Bosh couldn't tower over all the spurs players and snag one, which is exactly what happened.

The players win games, not the refs, and you can point the result of that game to Duncan not being in the game when he should have been.


WTH? Mike Brown had LeBron play point-forward and take top-of-the-arc threes like a pointguard. When your star player is a perimeter player, you don't throw in more perimeter shooters. The only reason it worked was because LeBron played however he felt like and drove the ball. The whole set up in Cleveland was so fing broken it's not even funny. The reason they were good was because LeBron was LeBron, despite Mike Brown trying to constrain him into doing something he was terrible at.

Refs can have a huge impact on an NBA game. And often do.

I reiterate the players win the games, not the refs.

I'm not defending the refs, they make some f'd up calls sometimes, (or they don't make calls), but there's a reason why coaches have their players watch gameplay footage: so they can figure out what they did wrong in that game, and how they can do better next time.

They're not saying, "Oh this ref didn't make that call, that's why we didn't win." What they ARE saying is, "Look, we got to defend LeBron better, (etc.) we got to do this and that, and then we'll be better off.

And I just presented an instance where the refs didn't call a HUGE violation against the Spurs, nullifying the ridiculous notion that LeBron and the heat always get favorable calls.

If you really want to keep talking about this, I can get more detailed...

Tell that to the 2006 Mavs.