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Soulflower 01-31-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1412278)
People who blame the refs for the result of a game fail. It's such a cop-out. The refs aren't Jesus Christ, so get over it.

I watched that game, and when they reviewed ray allen's three, Tim Duncan illegally substituted in the game and THE REFS never issued a technical foul on the Spurs because they didn't notice it.

And anyway, Duncan also should have been IN THE GAME TO GET REBOUNDS so Bosh couldn't tower over all the spurs players and snag one, which is exactly what happened.

The players win games, not the refs, and you can point the result of that game to Duncan not being in the game when he should have been.

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What about those two fouls in the last .5 seconds that were not called on Ray Allen and Bosh?

Are you honestly arguing that Refs do not make controversial calls?

This is a issue that affects all sports not just the NBA.

A bad call can GREATLY impact the outcome of a game.

It happens ALL the time.

butthead aka 216 01-31-2014 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1412310)
What about those two fouls in the last .5 seconds that were not called on Ray Allen and Bosh?

Are you honestly arguing that Refs do not make controversial calls?

This is a issue that affects all sports not just the NBA.

A bad call can GREATLY impact the outcome of a game.

It happens ALL the time.

wade got a ton of calls in th e'06 finals vs dallas

the lakers vs kings western finals yrs ago was rigged


other than that i dont think its rigged for any team. a ref would have to feel 100% comfortable in those calls and they werent. cause they were tough calls.



btw david stern is no longer commish. crazy how the game has changed with him as commish

Moss 01-31-2014 09:10 PM

I like the story about Kobe telling Ty Lawson "Im going to foul you now and the refs are not going to call it". And sure enough. A foul should be a foul but its not.

Soulflower 01-31-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1412311)
wade got a ton of calls in th e'06 finals vs dallas

the lakers vs kings western finals yrs ago was rigged


other than that i dont think its rigged for any team. a ref would have to feel 100% comfortable in those calls and they werent. cause they were tough calls.



btw david stern is no longer commish. crazy how the game has changed with him as commish


If Manu or Greene had of went to the free throw line and just had hit one of the shots they would have won.

The NBA is going to get their money some way or another.

I heard there were alot of bets made in Las Vegas for Miami to win which is why they did that.

But people are so gullible and take everything for face value

butthead aka 216 01-31-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1412322)
If Manu or Greene had of went to the free throw line and just had hit one of the shots they would have won.

The NBA is going to get their money some way or another.

I heard there were alot of bets made in Las Vegas for Miami to win which is why they did that.

But people are so gullible and take everything for face value

if the bets were heavy on miami then the refs would have been riggin it for spurs. not tryin to be snarky, just sayin thats how it works

Soulflower 01-31-2014 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1412324)
if the bets were heavy on miami then the refs would have been riggin it for spurs. not tryin to be snarky, just sayin thats how it works

Why would they rig it if the refs are in on it too?

The NBA are marketing Miami as the "Chicago Bulls Dream Team". They wanted a Game 7 to draw more ratings and money.

The Spurs technically should have won but the NBA purposely pushed a Game 7 to make it more entertaining and for the bets.

Betting is a million dollar investment. Although the Spurs should have won if they had of won, people would have lost ALOT of money and probably would have sued the NBA making up bs like they cheated and all that crap.

butthead aka 216 01-31-2014 09:48 PM

actually spurs covered the bettin spread so i dont think it had anythin to do with bettin tbh

Wpnfire 01-31-2014 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1412310)
What about those two fouls in the last .5 seconds that were not called on Ray Allen and Bosh?

Are you honestly arguing that Refs do not make controversial calls?

This is a issue that affects all sports not just the NBA.

A bad call can GREATLY impact the outcome of a game.

It happens ALL the time.

1. What about Tim Duncan being illegally substituted? A 6'11" 250 lbs. man should be pretty easy to notice. ALSO, it's pretty ridiculous to think Tim Duncan being illegally substituted was unintentional, so the Spurs effectively cheated. Also, I'm 99.999999999999999% sure the game wouldn't have gone into overtime if Tim Duncan had been in the game at the final seconds of regulation. You don't need to be an expert to see that. (You can go to youtube and watch those last few seconds, and the play-by-play announcers immediately hone in on why the f Tim Duncan was not in the game. Also, Leonard missed that crucial last free throw.

You see what I mean? The Spurs blew the game themselves. Steve Kerr said as much, "The Spurs straight up blew it..."

And no, I'm not arguing the refs don't make controversial calls, I AM against the idea that the refs decide the outcome of a game. 99.9% of the time, the play of the teams wholly decide which one wins and loses. Game 6 of the Western Conference finals back in 2002 (see below) being a possible example of games where the refs were woefully mistaken and may have had enough impact to alter the outcome of that series.

2. The LA-Kings series back in 2002: As far as I can see, game 6 was the only game where there were allegations of corruption. After that, the Kings gave away game 7, so losing the series was their own fault (2-20 on threes (10%!) in game 7 being case-and-point.) Game 6 WAS pretty iffy. Though the Mavs-Heat '06 series I do not believe suffered that same fate. The refs just know to look for contact with Wade because all he does is drive, and people foul him intentionally all the time as a result.

I'm sure in a few years people might say Westrbook or Rose get favorable calls cause the refs get used to looking for it. (if those two were ever healthy, especially Rose).

3. David Stern: Did you see the draft last year!? That was hysterical how much people were booing him! The only thing I have against him is the whole condensed schedule back in 2011-2012, which I think greatly deteriorated players across all the teams.

Soulflower 01-31-2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1412327)
actually spurs covered the bettin spread so i dont think it had anythin to do with bettin tbh


All I know is I don't watch the NBA anymore.

I cried when they lost because it wasn't fair.

Its... its to much and then the lies... I don't support things like that


Tim deserves one more ring before he retires

YorkeDaddy 02-01-2014 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1412336)
All I know is I don't watch the NBA anymore.

I cried when they lost because it wasn't fair.

Its... its to much and then the lies... I don't support things like that


Tim deserves one more ring before he retires

"Wahhhh my team lost so it must be rigged"

How ****ing immature can someone be

I love the tears of pathetic NBA "fans". I'll just slip on my Miami Heat 2012-2013 NBA Champions t-shirt and go on with my day.


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