That was the most boring finals in a decade. I hope its two new teams altogether.

The Heat will be there next year, but I really doubt the Mavs will be.

From the west: Lakers or Thunder.

Seriously?

More boring than the Spurs-Cavs debacle in 2007?
More boring than the Spurs-Pistons series in 2005?
More boring than the finals from 2000-2003 when it seemed that the Western Conference Champion was guaranteed to win?

The last decade or so had a boatload of boring finals but this was not one of them.

Yes. More boring then all of those games listed. I disagree, especially about the Lakers wins.

Wow.... I don't even know what to say to a person that would have honestly rather watch the Spurs sweep a Cavs team that was lucky to be there than this series.

Of course you would pick the Laker wins as more entertaining since you are from So. Cal.

Well besides the obvious of being a Lakers fan, i thoroughly enjoyed watching Lebron get spanked and swept in the Finals. Quite the contrary.

That makes more sense, but this series seemed to be more humiliating for Lebron than the Spurs series.

No one was expecting Lebron's team to win and his jackassery still was in the closet.

I really didn't care who won this Finals. I am not really on the hate Lebron bandwagon, I think it boils down to people thinking hes the next messiah that kind of bothers me. He certainly is a very talented player, and a physical specimen in the highest degree. I still think hes gotta improve his outside shooting still in crunch time and definitely needs to get his post game to a higher standard. Hes clearly top 5 in the league.

I never wanted to see him fail because of the Decision either, Thats his prerogative to move to a championship caliber squad and he did it.

You must be new to basketball. Nearly every game was decided in the closing seconds, including some crazy come-backs. That was a very entertaining series. Don't worry though, it'll be an Orlando/Oklahoma series next year.

Actually i've been watching basketball since 77. I didn't find any of the games to be very entertaining. They can be close, but when they are scoring on the average of 85 pts, it gets a bit slow. I think Oklahoma could get over the hump next year, but i don't see Orlando going to the Finals. I would have much rather watched Oklahoma play in the finals, they have a very exciting uptempo game and some great young players.

The Mavs usually have the same tempo as OKC, but Miami did a great job defensively. The thing is, I get annoyed by defensiveness basketball. Extremely high scoring games frustrate me because it lacks a lot of fundamentals. I can see where you're coming from, though, if that's what you watch for. As far as Orlando goes, I just feel like in order to keep DH, which they'll do anything to do, they're going to bring in another couple pieces to help him out. A great point guard would put them over the edge.

Too bad they signed Rashard Lewis to a max deal that has now become Arenas' rotting corpse.

These teams with top flight players should take their cues from LA and OKC. DON'T OVERPAY ROLEPLAYERS, YOU ARE AN EXTREMELY ATTRACTIVE FREE AGENT DESTINATION.

Howard: I want to stay, but I'm still becoming a free agent | NBA.com

He basically gave them an ultimatum saying they either win next year or he is gone.

BTW, Philly has been shopping Iggy to Golden State and the Clips. I really hope for his sake that he goes to the Warriors instead of the Clippers.

The Clippers are a good young nucleus. Iguodola would look good on that team. I agree the Warriors probably have more talent in the end however. I believe Howard should stay in Orlando, they are a couple players away from a championship. He may end up getting his best offer from Orlando anyway as not many teams are ready to give up draft picks these past years.

Don't forget that the Clippers are owned by Donald "I make James Dolan look smart" Sterling.

Don't ever count out the media in getting to a guy's head and forcing him to make a bad "decision."

People are already peddling "Dwight for Lebron" rumors and some Laker fans are starting to get a bit jumpy. :laughing:

Oh i know Sterlings a total **** up, that is never lost on me. I can't see Miami blowing up that team after making the finals. If i saw a sign and trade i think it would involve the Lakers. Dwight for Bynum and Odom would be my guess. Being a Lakers fan its only fair, The Lakers have gone long enough without a Championship. LOL :laughing:

All I know is that Lebron was traded after this then that would be ultimate blow to his ego.

I imagine little Aiden has been suffering for his entire 1 year of living without seeing his Lakers becoming NBA Champs. :laughing:

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Miami Herald fail.

By some miracle, Josh Harrelson was drafted mid-second round. Holy ****.

Happy to see Faried go around late first round; really excited that the guy didn't get buried in the second clusterfuck...er...round.

I'd not have put Kyrie Irving at the top overall prospect either...I guess I'd have given him fourth or something, so it's not that big a deal. I don't think he's going to be a Kwame Brown-esque draft bust or anything like that.

Also, Chandler Parsons, I feel, is a huge second round steal. I think that boy's got a career ahead of him.

Finally: **** Jimmer Fredette. Can't stand that kid.

What's not to like about Jimmer? He's never said anything that irked me in the slightest, and he is really fun to watch. I think he could be fairly effective as a 6th man scorer type. I'm not sure if he could become a starter, but he certainly has the capacity to. He's a decent athlete and you know he is going to work as hard as anyone. If he could somehow manage to become a excellent passer and a decent defender, he could be extremely fun to watch.

I think Irving was the right pick at #1. In my mind, he is one of few in the draft with the ability to become an all-star. He has an extremely high Bball IQ and is an excellent shooter. In addition, I think he will be an above average defender.

I think Williams is going to be a bust relative to where he was taken. First of all, he doesn't really have a position. He doesn't have the handle or quickness to be a 3, and he doesn't have the prototypical height/weight of a 4. I see him as a solid rotation player.

Kanter will be an OK center, nothing more or less.

Tristan Thompson was a huge reach.

The biggest steals of the lottery were Kemba and the Morris twins.

I am annoyed at the guy because he has received so much unnecessary media attention. If someone didn't know basketball they would think that he was a destined top 5 pick or something. The kid is just screams Adam Morrison 2.0, which is not bad since he has 2 more rings than Lebron.

Who the **** is Iman Shumpert? I have never watched a Georgia Tech game in my life so I'm not very knowledgeable on this kid.

The college player of the year deserves all the attention he gets. Who cares about whether or not it will translate to the NBA, he was great to watch at BYU.

Where is all the talent going these days? It seems like every draft class is very underwhelming. This won't be as bad as Griffin's year, but pretty close to it.

This is the worst draft class in at least ten years.

Blake's was good: Harden, Tyreke Evans, Steph Curry, Brandon Jennings, Hansbrough, Jrue Holiday, Ty Lawson, Darren Collison, Taj Gibson, Sam Young, DaJuan Blair and Marcus Thornton.

Thabeet, Rubio look like they might be major flops. And there just isn't any starpower there. Some guys will turn out to be decent players, but it seemed like for a while they were pumping out stars every year.

Blake is the next big thing, and a number of the guys I mentioned have the potential to become stars. Every draft has huge flops so that point is moot.

Obviously Blake does, but who else from that class has superstar potential?

Harden is basically Paul Pierce's doppleganger in terms of his play. Other potential stars are: Tyreke, Ty, Jrue, Jennings and Collison.

That is point of the draft.

I couldn't give a fuck about college basketball or college sports in general.

I didn't know too much about him either. I've done a little reading up on him and found that he was a stud at the combine. Seems to be a great defender. From what I've read, if Georgia Tech didn't s**k so bad, he would have gotten picked earlier. He kinda flew under the radar. It actually meets a need for the Knicks. We still need a BIG though.

That's what annoys me. This franchise seems to have some sort of problem with talented centers (Lee and Amare are not true centers) since Ewing left. I just don't get it, but apparently since it's a "guards league" now centers are out of style.

I agree. It's been a long time since we had a "true" center. I'm hopeful that we pick someone up before next season. He doesn't need to be a stud, just serviceable and I'd be happy.

This happens every year with huge college players with questionable NBA talent. Eat a snickers.

It hasn't been this bad since Adam Morrison.

And fuck Snickers. Kit Kat is the way to go.

Agreed. He just needs to not be a Jarred Jeffries or Eddy Curry.

Griffin will be included into the NBA history. he will become a great!

Glad to see the MB NBA thread guys again, I'm back from my month long stay in MB jail :bringit::pimp:

The new CBA stuff looks really bad. I can honestly see no season happening next year. I'll be devastated if that happens, but the two sides are hundred of millions of dollars apart. I just can't see them closing the gap. The owners are gonna take a page out of the NHL's playbook where they locked out for an entire season and got the owners a great deal. Players have no leverage at all here and they are gonna have to really lower what they want if they wanna play next year. It's all a shame because this was the best NBA year in over a decade. The Decision really made the NBA must-watch TV even for non-NBA junkies.


Just commenting on Rubio...I think he is really going to dissapoint everyone. The expectations are going to be way too high for him so I hope he cna handle the scrutiny he will get over here. Luckily it's Minnesota though, who is used to being terrible and don't expect to win. I really just don't think he's an NBA player.

I miss the centers of the league. Now it's all 7 footers who catch alley oops. Nobody has any offensive game anymore. You never see the ball go into the post like it used to. I think after years of getting owned by guys like Ewing and Shaq, teams figured out that it was easier to put the burden of defense on teams with the huge centers than trying to get beef inside to stop them. I'm talking about getting 7 footers who can shoot 3's. There's more than there have ever been, and the big old center prototype of the 90s can't guard out there. I miss the classic post-ups though.


This CBA could really hurt teams. I'm thinking a hard cap will be installed and teams are gonna have a hard time adding pieces for a few years. I think the Heat will benefit the most to be honest, because I don't think teams will be able to form these super squads after the new CBA. And for all the talk of teh heat needing to add guys, I think it's a load of shit. They got to game 6 of the Finals and probably could have swept the series if LBJ wouldn't have fell asleep and they could have closed out game 2. And they did it with the Big 3 and a group of guys they threw together.

Bynum and Gasol have legit post games. Howard is coming along in that area too. Cousins is already better than 90% of centers in the post too.

Gasol has the best true post game in the league in my opinion. He's so skilled with both hands. I still think Bynum would be a 20+PPG guy on almost any other team in the league. I don't think he has great post moves, but his offensive game is good enough to get by considering his length. Nobody keeps the ball up better than he does. Howard has really improved. I say ditch the jump shot all together and just go to the jump hook/running hook every time.

I think one reason it's turned into a guards league is because of the way guys have figured out how to draw fouls. I mean, guys have always done it, but I'm seeing things now I haven't seen in the past. Like D-Wades transition cross step. Where his first step will be with his right foot across his body. It's a defensive foul every time. Offensive guys throw their bodies into defenders way more than I remember seeing in the 90s and they get the calls most the time too. So many guys make their living at the foul line.

Yep, it all changed when they got rid of hand checking. Post guys still get mauled though.

Shaq to TBS

I already loved Inside the NBA for Barkley, but this is going to be great.

With the hand checking, if you even touch a guy at all it's gonna be a foul.

I think defenses have gotten better at defending the low post too. There is a double team almost every time a skilled big man catches the ball on the block and you can't double team guards like you can bigs. It really forces the big men to be complete players and be able to pass.

When I heard Shaq to TBS I had to laugh. Between Barkley, Shaq, and Kenny Smith this might be the loudest show on television lol. Kenny Smith screams into the camera. I like the TBS crew though, probably more than the ESPN crew because Magic Johnson is a terrible analyst in my opinion. TBS doesn't analyze all that much but at least it's a good laugh and doesn't take itself real serious.