The American Football Thread

[debaserr]

Originally Posted by Sparky

is mark sanchez a starting qb next year?

Maybe, but he will have to win it.

[Forward To Death]

Kaepernick was good enough to throw 4 TDs and beat the Patriots, so I don't really understand the hate. He was drafted with every intention of taking over, so Harbaugh obviously saw something in him, and it just happens to be the case that he's got the hot hand right now. I think the 9ers want someone who can extend plays with his mobility, and Kaepernick does that. He also doesn't try to force passes, and has only thrown 2 picks all year.

I think the one thing to be said is that he doesn't really score very many TDs with his arm, he only has 7, 4 of them against a terrible Patriots defense last week. He's pretty efficient though, and he does have some rushing TDs.

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by Exoskeletal

I would like you to point out where I said kaepernick was an all pro quarterback. You said yourself that you had no reason not to like him but that you just don't. You gave zero reasons why you are unimpressed with him and I have you five on why you should be impressed with him. I look forward to your next knowledge filled thought out response.

No actually I said I really have no reasons for not liking him other than the way he got his starting QB position. Am I required to have to provide legitimate reasons for not liking someone in the NFL? Is this not America where I reserve the right to not like someone simply for the sake of not liking them? You cant convince me to like the dude at this moment in time reguardless of any statistics or reasons you feel should succsessfully convert me over to his bandwagon. I never liked Farve either so go ahead and start telling me how great he was and I'll continue not liking him either no matter what you say. I know everything that Kaepersnatch has done since he's been the starter I watch pretty much every single game of the teams I admire. He also has the added benefit of being on one if not the best team in football. I'm not saying the dude is a flop but your making him sound like the best thing since sliced bread. So he's won 5 games and beat the Patriots (barely) in New England. The Pats usually have to score 40 freaking points a game to win anyway if that says anything about they're deffense. Theres still a lot of football left for the 9ers and this dude to play and the most important being in the post season. People said the same things about Romo when he started QBing for the Cowboys and look where we are however many years later. If you wanna bet the farm on a unproven rookie go ahead and do it but what I'm saying is lets see how this thing plays out before we start crowning him the next Tom Brady.

[Forward To Death]

You not liking him is based on the logical fallacy that he's being crowned the next Tom Brady. I haven't even heard of him being compared to Russell Wilson, let alone Tom Brady hahaha.

What don't you like about the guy? He got his job because of his coaches decision? Brett Favre gives you every reason in the world to dislike him, but Kaepernick really doesn't even have a image, he's just a kid with a decent arm who can extend plays.

You just sounds like you're trying too hard to dislike the guy.

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

You not liking him is based on the logical fallacy that he's being crowned the next Tom Brady. I haven't even heard of him being compared to Russell Wilson, let alone Tom Brady hahaha.

What don't you like about the guy? He got his job because of his coaches decision? Brett Favre gives you every reason in the world to dislike him, but Kaepernick really doesn't even have a image, he's just a kid with a decent arm who can extend plays.

You just sound like you're trying too hard to dislike the guy. Matter of fact, it always comes off like you're trying hard to be a dick, in which case you're just a blowhard.

Fair enough I've been called a lot worse and in a lot of cases deservingly so. However it just so happens in this case I just dont like the guy. Why do I have to like him? Why? Is there a religion I'm suppose to be a part of as well that I'm not aware of? Yes all of the praise this guy is getting is ridiculous for no more than he has accomplished.(hence the Brady comparison) Maybe it hasn't been said out right but thats the way people are making him sound. For the team he is on I would say anything less than what he has done would be a disappointment. He hasn't let them down and thats all he has really done imo. Alex Smith was doing the same thing before he got his concussion. This whole debate or whatever you want to call it started because I called him Kaeperscratch. Boo whanny hoo hoo. You know how many people mock the Cowboys and how many times I hear Romo called Tony Homo? Big freakin deal man, put on a little thicker skin and get off Kaepersnatches jock for a minute. The dude hasn't won a playoff game or a super bowl yet or set any niner franchise TD throwing records or anything of great significance. Again maybe the dude will turn out to be a somebody in the NFL, but until he has more than 5 games under his belt don't expect me to sponsor or be in his entourage of Keaperpalooza fans.

[Forward To Death]

You are always entitled to your opinion. I'm searching to find out why you hate the guy, but it seems like you just simply do. I won't pretend I'm above hate. I can't stand Mark Sanchez, I think he's a douchebag. Regardless, I have several reasons, most of them being because I hate the Jets, and their fans are the worst.

I just haven't seen much to hate in Kapernick. He's not a first rounder, I've never heard about any douchey behavior, or being a Favre-esque drama whore.

[Sparky]

he's just not a leader, you can tell. His tattoo's, he throws the ball way too hard, the whole offense is just a mess with him on the field.

[Bloozcrooz]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

You are always entitled to your opinion. I'm searching to find out why you hate the guy, but it seems like you just simply don't. I won't pretend I'm above hate. I can't stand Mark Sanchez, I think he's a douchebag. Regardless, I have several reasons, most of them being because I hate the Jets, and their fans are the worst.

I just haven't seen much to hate in Kapernick. He's not a first rounder, I've never heard about any douchey behavior, or being a Favre-esque drama whore.

I just dont like the way he got the QB job regaurdless of it not being his decision, and all the hype, and praise this guy gets from the media, and 9er fans. Dont get me wrong I dont HATE the guy, I just dont feel like he is deserving of being played up as much as he is. As far as Farve goes I just never really liked him either, and it didn't have much to do with who he was off the field or his pre maddona like behavior. I just always thought he was over rated as well, and got more credit than he deserved. Off the field antics or accusations or a "its all about me attitude" wont deter me from liking an athlete, but over hyping one after only 5 game will. I was a Terrel Owens fan for christ sake and still am. I love Randy Moss in spite of all the b.s. he has been a part of through the years. I haven't seen Kaeperscratch behave in a manner anywhere close to that, and if he did I wouldn't care. It would not influence me not to like him, but I just want to see how things unfold in the playoffs before I'm starting him in the pro bowl. Yes I know nobody said he's pro bowl material its just an example.

[Sparky]

you have a point blooz

alex smith last post season

2 games
5 tds/ 0 picks/ 495 yards (not great but it is run heavy team)

[Exo]

1. Kaepernick is not a rookie.
2. You have not provided any actual reason why you don't like the guy. The only "reason" you gave was because of how you didn't like how Jim Harbaugh handed him the starting job. That's fine. It's a topic of much dispute, but hate on Harbaugh for that, not Kaepernick. What was Kaepernick supposed to do? The kid worked his whole life to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. He's not going to give that up because Alex was playing well.
3. I'm not trying to insist that you like Colin Kaepernick. That's not what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get an answer out of you on why you don't like him. I'm sorry man, but "I just don't like him" is not only a bad excuse for not liking somebody but it's also ****ing boring to read about on a message board. If you saw somebody in the music section saying "I don't like Pink Floyd" and he never gave an actual reason but rather said "well I just don't like them" you'd wish they'd stop posting...at least in that thread about that particular subject.
4. This may sound kind of douche-y and I'm sorry but not everybody's opinions are correct. I'll respect your opinion but I'll also reserve the right to call it stupid. You're right, Kaepernick is not Tom Brady. He is not a top ten quarterback and anybody who says he is is wrong. He is however putting together a very impressive start to his career. Don't like stats? Okay. Look at his games. I could count the amount of actual mistakes he's made on one hand through five games. He does everything Alex did except he takes it a step further by having a rocket of an arm and the speed of a wide receiver. That is why Alex isn't starting anymore. Jim made a decision for the better of the team and I agree. To me for somebody to say he hasn't been impressive just means that person doesn't know much about football. Sorry man, it's just my opinion. If I told you that Mark Sanchez impressed me Monday night would you laugh or respect my thought? I'd laugh right in my face because nobody could possibly think that Sanchez was impressive just how I actually can't think of why somebody could hate Kaepernick.

By the way, I'm a die hard 49er fan. It may be bias what I just said, but I'm also an NFL fan. I feel like my opinion would not change if I were a fan of any other team