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thegoldlaw · 12-09-2008, 12:27 AM

But once again, Iowa hasnt played anyone beyond Penn St which really doesnt add to your side. Mississippi played the #1 team @ the time florida and beat them. They also played #1 Alabama and almost beat them. Iowa has absolutely no impressive wins. If Iowa went undefeated this year they would be looked upon like Boise St. If Mississippi went undefeated with their schedule they would be ranked #1. And Given they didnt let up those 16 points they would have been undefeated.

Son of JayJamJah · 12-09-2008, 12:37 AM

Only 1/3rd of Iowa and Ole Miss and Boise State's schedule is up to them, is that how we should rank them?

thegoldlaw · 12-09-2008, 01:18 AM

Boise St I think got Shafted. I think they should be playing Utah in the Sugar Bowl. And then have Penn St vs Alabama in the Rose Bowl.

And yes because with that 3rd you can schedule harder people. You only need 2 big wins to put you into the BCS game. Say you schedule USC and Texas and the rest of your schedule is fluff. If you win out you will be in the national championship game.

Son of JayJamJah · 12-09-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

Boise St I think got Shafted. I think they should be playing Utah in the Sugar Bowl. And then have Penn St vs Alabama in the Rose Bowl.

And yes because with that 3rd you can schedule harder people. You only need 2 big wins to put you into the BCS game. Say you schedule USC and Texas and the rest of your schedule is fluff. If you win out you will be in the national championship game.

USC and Texas would likely never play Boise State and if they did it'd be at their place...And nobody else has to beat two teams that good one the road. Plus if they lose any games in conference they are out of it, whereas aforementioned Trojans and Longhorns have a margin for error some years.

dac · 12-09-2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

Boise St I think got Shafted. I think they should be playing Utah in the Sugar Bowl. And then have Penn St vs Alabama in the Rose Bowl.

And yes because with that 3rd you can schedule harder people. You only need 2 big wins to put you into the BCS game. Say you schedule USC and Texas and the rest of your schedule is fluff. If you win out you will be in the national championship game.

No one wants to see Utah vs. Boise, not even Utah or Boise. The idea of those schools being BCS busters is so that they can show that they can compete with the big boys, not each other.

thegoldlaw · 12-09-2008, 09:12 AM

I think opinion has changed on boise st. In alot of forums and people I talk too they seem to be warming up to the idea of boise st. Mainly because they have been undefeated 3 out of the last 5 seasons. And honestly if boise st can beat a powerhouse at the end of the year like they did with oklahoma they would be no different then USC. Every year USC beats no one and gets a bid into a BCS games. If USC played a hard schedule like a texas, oklahoma or almost any team in the SEC I think they'd be 2-3 lost team and wouldnt get these bids they get now.

ProggyMan · 12-09-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

The problem doesnt lie with the BCS, the problem lies with tiebreakers. The Tiebreaker games should only take into account #2-#3 and possibly #4 if needed. If texas were to play Okla on a tie breaker game and the winner of that played florida you'd have almost no one complaining except maybe boise st and USC (Has no grounds, hasnt beat anyone). The only reason why boise st didnt make it is because of hawaii. When hawaii played georgia it was the lowest rated BCS bowl ever and hawaii just stunk it up. I know the arguement is going to be, well Boise St is good they beat Oklahoma. They won it on 2 fluke plays and the ratings of the game was almost as bad as the hawaii game.

Bull****, Ohio State lost to two top 10 teams, you can't use last season and the season before against them.

ProggyMan · 12-09-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

Either is Iowa, they beat Penn State who beat Oregon State by 50 who beat USC.

It was 31.
thegoldlaw: Shut the ****, your a ****ing idiot, guess who's played the toughest out of conference schedule this decade? USC. Guess who beat more currently ranked teams, USC or Oklahoma? They're tied. Go the **** away, they've gone, what, 6-1 in BCS games, the only loss against a one of the greatest single game performances ever to go along with ridiculous blown calls on replay and still lost by 3. The Pac 10 has just as many good teams as the SEC this year, I'm tired of this bull**** about how USC should be punished for their conference schedule.
Edit: Nevermind, because Cal somehow stayed out of the rankings and Missouri actually moved up in one poll Oklahoma has beaten more ranked teams, technically. But my point stands.

thegoldlaw · 12-09-2008, 07:03 PM

Ohio St robbed Miami and they been living off that victory for way to long now. The big 10 as a whole is really down right now. Ohio St did what in the prior 2 years in BCS games? The only big 10 team that showed anything was Michigan when they beat florida.

ProggyMan · 12-09-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw

Ohio St robbed Miami and they been living off that victory for way to long now. The big 10 as a whole is really down right now. Ohio St did what in the prior 2 years in BCS games? The only big 10 team that showed anything was Michigan when they beat florida.

Way to ignore my point. You can't judge teams based on what they did last year or the year before.

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12-09-2008, 12:27 AM	#21 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	But once again, Iowa hasnt played anyone beyond Penn St which really doesnt add to your side. Mississippi played the #1 team @ the time florida and beat them. They also played #1 Alabama and almost beat them. Iowa has absolutely no impressive wins. If Iowa went undefeated this year they would be looked upon like Boise St. If Mississippi went undefeated with their schedule they would be ranked #1. And Given they didnt let up those 16 points they would have been undefeated.

12-09-2008, 01:18 AM	#23 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	Boise St I think got Shafted. I think they should be playing Utah in the Sugar Bowl. And then have Penn St vs Alabama in the Rose Bowl. And yes because with that 3rd you can schedule harder people. You only need 2 big wins to put you into the BCS game. Say you schedule USC and Texas and the rest of your schedule is fluff. If you win out you will be in the national championship game.

12-09-2008, 09:12 AM	#26 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	I think opinion has changed on boise st. In alot of forums and people I talk too they seem to be warming up to the idea of boise st. Mainly because they have been undefeated 3 out of the last 5 seasons. And honestly if boise st can beat a powerhouse at the end of the year like they did with oklahoma they would be no different then USC. Every year USC beats no one and gets a bid into a BCS games. If USC played a hard schedule like a texas, oklahoma or almost any team in the SEC I think they'd be 2-3 lost team and wouldnt get these bids they get now.

12-09-2008, 07:03 PM	#29 (permalink)
thegoldlaw Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, US Posts: 205	Ohio St robbed Miami and they been living off that victory for way to long now. The big 10 as a whole is really down right now. Ohio St did what in the prior 2 years in BCS games? The only big 10 team that showed anything was Michigan when they beat florida.