ProggyMan

You only responded to a my Texas Tech comment, which wasn't even the main focus of my post.

thegoldlaw

In a nutshell what part do you believe I missed ?

ProggyMan

This one:
But anyways, the Pac-10 isn't as good as either the SEC or Big 12 this year, but USC still has played a decent OOC schedule and beaten several solid teams in conference. Just because the Pac-10 is down doesn't mean USC is, they have the best defense in the country by far and a solid, balanced offense. The Big 12 hasn't done anything to prove themselves out of conference, neither has the SEC (Which has the same amount of good teams as the Pac-10). USC dominated the only 10 win team they played, which you discount because you say they haven't shown up in their two big games this year. Which is bull**** because one of those games was lost on a freshman mistake by 7 points, the other being the game against USC. I'm not going to argue that the Pac-10 is better than the SEC/Big 12, but the gap is closer than you'd like to believe and USC is just as good as any team in the country. Oregon is just as good as Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, Cal is almost as good, Oregon State is about the same.

thegoldlaw

Oregon's OOC
Lost to boise st,

Oregon's St OOC
Lost Penn St
Lost Utah
Won Hawaii (7-6)

Cal's OOC
Lost Maryland

Arizona St' OOC
Lost Georgia

Stanford's OOC
Lost TCU
Lost Notre Dame

UCLA's OOC
Lost BYU
Lost Fresno St.

Washington OOC/Conference
Lost every game

So what you're telling me is the Pac 10 isn't bad ? They're TERRIBLE and their collective OOC proves that. USC plays in a B---- conference and you know it. If they played in the Big 12 they would get rolled by Oklahoma, Texas tech and Texas. I know how you love history, because of this I'll remind you when USC was considered the best team of all times (reggie bush, lienart etc). What happened when they played Texas (big 12)?

Also out of 24 possible people to win an award at the end of the year only 1 Pac 10 player was selected as a possible canidate vs 11 from the Big 12.

ProggyMan

They narrowly lost to a BCS team with their what, 4th string passer?

They lost to 2 BCS teams...

Considering who Maryland beat...

Down year for them, but hardly a bad loss.

How horrible...Two bowl teams...

analogous to one of the many poor Big 12 teams you seem to forget about.

Yeh, we ll know they suck. The Pac-10 has played the top OOC schedule in the country, that's a fact.

No, I don't know it. There you go again using examples from previous years. at least use one that makes sense instead of a game with a completely bogus call that cost USC the NC. So far all you've done is make poorly informed statements about how the Pac-10 being weak this year means USC is a fraud. Remember the 2005 NC game? Well, your memory does seem to be selective.


Your point?

dac

Proggy the point is that they all LOST. There is no excuse for getting steamrolled by the mountain west.

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thegoldlaw

To consider OOC they acturally have to win a legit game. I proved Pac-10 plays hard within their weak conference. The second they leave their conference they get owned. The only reason USC is 11-1 is because they play in a fruity conference.

Pac 10 is 1-15 in OOC games outside of USC 3-0 with 2 of those wins vs JUNK teams Viginia 5-7 and ND 6-6. Doesn't hurt Ohio St has been rolled almost every BCS game since they robbed miami on a phantom call.

And somehow you feel you can justify all those loses because they are bcs teams and close games. How many close calls do you want? Missing the interception by 1 inch, or losing on the last play of the game and by a missed tackle. How about the fact Texas didnt have their #1 Defensive player, or their #1 WR on their only lost. If your rationale is the Pac 10 played close hard games then Texas should be #1 in your book.

dac

That was the right call. The only problem with it was that the ref took forever to throw the flag... the defender was all over Gamble and as the ball got close he let go.

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thegoldlaw

Right off the back was illegal hands to the face on Ohio St, you clearly see the hand go to the face mask which is illegal. Then you see a pushoff simuliar to what micheal jordan did vs the jazz. As the ball is thrown you see the guy turn his head and go for the ball. If anything the ohio st guy should have been flagged.

dac

You also see a Miami defender all over Gamble... maybe there was a foul on Gamble's part, but you know as well as I do the Refs side with the offense. My roommate has it on DVD and we watched the game about 3 days ago; I still maintain that the McGahee knee injury is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen.

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