The BCS
 

Thoughts? This or a playoff?

I'd love an 8 team playoff.

11 game season
required conference championship game in BCS conferences
top two wild cards via combined poll average join the tournament
teams are seeded via poll average and the next six games are called the Cotton, Orange, Rose, Fiesta, Sugar and Citrus rotating every year. The rest of the bowl games still exist and are played between the opening round and National title game.

FUCK 'EM.

I'd love an 8 team playoff as well, but in a NON-playoff system, the BCS is about the best we could do. Do people remember how terrible it was before the BCS?

I hate the BCS. Then again I'm probably just a bitter Michigan fan. 8 team playoff, please.

The dac solution to college football:

You currently have 119 teams in D1, bring up App State and put it at 120. Divide the 120 teams into 12 conferences of ten teams, dividing up the super power programs evenly between the conferences. Play a 12 game season, your 9 conference games plus 3 non conference games. Take the winner of each conference and put them into a 16 team playoff. Voters vote on the last 4 spots.

I thought this was hilarious:

BCS DECLARES GERMANY WINNER OF WORLD WAR II
US Ranked 4th

After determining the Big-12 championship game participants the BCS computers were put to work on other major contests and today the BCS declared Germany to be the winner of World War II.

" Germany put together an incredible number of victories beginning with the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland and continuing on into conference play with defeats of Poland , France , Norway , Sweden , Denmark , Belgium and the Netherlands . Their only losses came against the US and Russia; however considering their entire body of work--including an incredibly tough Strength of Schedule--our computers deemed them worthy of the #1 ranking."

Questioned about the #4 ranking of the United States the BCS commissioner stated "The US only had two major victories-- Japan and Germany . The computer models, unlike humans, aren't influenced by head-to-head contests--they consider each contest to be only a single, equally-weighted event."

German Chancellor Adolph Hiter said "Yes, we lost to the US ; but we defeated #2 ranked France in only 6 weeks." Herr Hitler has been criticized for seeking dramatic victories to earn 'style points' to enhance Germany 's rankings. Hitler protested "Our contest with Poland was in doubt until the final day and the conditions in Norway were incredibly challenging and demanded the application of additional forces."

The BCS is not that bad, it's better then the old system, it's just not the best system.

Is there any fan who would not rather see an 8 team tournament featuring USC, Alabama, Florida, Penn State, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah and Boise State?

Rate them as the BCS has them

First Round

#1 Oklahoma vs. #8 Boise State - Fiesta Bowl

#2 Florida vs. #7 Penn State - Gator Bowl

#3 Texas vs. #6 Utah - Cotton Bowl

#4 Alabama vs. #5 USC - Orange Bowl

Semi-Finals

OU\BSU winner vs. Bama\USC Winner - Sugar Bowl

Fla\PSU winner vs. Texas\Utah winner - Orange Bowl

Finals

BCS Champioship Game


Everyone wins...it's so simple.

I'd rather see a 64 team playoff which would bring in huge revenue. Just cut the regular season back and replace it with the playoff. My plan is more detailed but I g2g so I'll post the rest later.

Too many games. Six games for some, One for others, a variance of 10 to 15 game seasons, a nine to ten game max regular season, that messes with history and tradition too much...Plus no way 64 teams deserve the right to compete. If #1 Oklahoma's Sam Bradford goes down in a 63-7 win over #64 Hawaii it ruins the tournament.

I've though of all that, when I have time I'll type the whole thing up.

It is superfluous Proggy.

There are never more then 8 teams with a real right to be called champion.

So is the bowl system. But it's profitable and fair. Just cut the regular season back, that eliminates the injury problem.

Regular season is great, every game matters. My suggesion deosn;t change any of that, it just gives evey deserving team a shot in the end.

tell me you wouldn't love that eight team playoff this year.

The problem doesnt lie with the BCS, the problem lies with tiebreakers. The Tiebreaker games should only take into account #2-#3 and possibly #4 if needed. If texas were to play Okla on a tie breaker game and the winner of that played florida you'd have almost no one complaining except maybe boise st and USC (Has no grounds, hasnt beat anyone). The only reason why boise st didnt make it is because of hawaii. When hawaii played georgia it was the lowest rated BCS bowl ever and hawaii just stunk it up. I know the arguement is going to be, well Boise St is good they beat Oklahoma. They won it on 2 fluke plays and the ratings of the game was almost as bad as the hawaii game.

What about Penn State and Alabama?

Alabama had their shot @ the national chamionship game and lost. And who has Penn St beaten? and NO Ohio st is not a team. IF Penn St had gone undefeated then it would be different, but they lost.

Tx Lost on the Last play of a game, a couple of plays prior could have easily been won if gideon had caught the ball. Also texas had 4 days to prepare for that game after playing 3 huge games prior to that and winning. Oklahoma had 2 weeks to prepare for that game. Also Oklahoma had not gone though the Guantlet that Texas did.

Not fair to say.

Oklahoma had their shot and lost and still they are in the title game. Florida is probably better then Texas...but lost to Ole Miss which is worse then Iowa...no transitive property in college football.

Sec I thought played out perfect, No one really complained much about that conference because most teams considered Florida to be the best, while others considered undefeated Alabama to be the best. Florida won and therefore is in the national championship game. Texas had no such chance to prove themself in the later part of the year but did when they beat the team going into the Nation championship game now.

And you say Mississippi like its a BAD team. Have you looked @ their schedule? I doubt you have so i'll run it down for you.

LSU - Won 31-13
Auburn Won 17-7
Alabama Lost 20-24 AT ALABAMA!
Arkansas Won 23-21

So by no stretch are they a BAD team. All their loses combined are -16 points!!. OF those 4 games they lost by an average of 4 teams. One of which was a #1 Team in Alabama.

LMFAO!! IOWA played MAINE! You have to be kidding me! Maine is like D3 Football.. they are a terrible team. I know I'm from maine. And Ioaw has beaten no one!

Either is Iowa, they beat Penn State who beat Oregon State by 50 who beat USC.

But once again, Iowa hasnt played anyone beyond Penn St which really doesnt add to your side. Mississippi played the #1 team @ the time florida and beat them. They also played #1 Alabama and almost beat them. Iowa has absolutely no impressive wins. If Iowa went undefeated this year they would be looked upon like Boise St. If Mississippi went undefeated with their schedule they would be ranked #1. And Given they didnt let up those 16 points they would have been undefeated.

Only 1/3rd of Iowa and Ole Miss and Boise State's schedule is up to them, is that how we should rank them?

Boise St I think got Shafted. I think they should be playing Utah in the Sugar Bowl. And then have Penn St vs Alabama in the Rose Bowl.

And yes because with that 3rd you can schedule harder people. You only need 2 big wins to put you into the BCS game. Say you schedule USC and Texas and the rest of your schedule is fluff. If you win out you will be in the national championship game.

USC and Texas would likely never play Boise State and if they did it'd be at their place...And nobody else has to beat two teams that good one the road. Plus if they lose any games in conference they are out of it, whereas aforementioned Trojans and Longhorns have a margin for error some years.

No one wants to see Utah vs. Boise, not even Utah or Boise. The idea of those schools being BCS busters is so that they can show that they can compete with the big boys, not each other.

I think opinion has changed on boise st. In alot of forums and people I talk too they seem to be warming up to the idea of boise st. Mainly because they have been undefeated 3 out of the last 5 seasons. And honestly if boise st can beat a powerhouse at the end of the year like they did with oklahoma they would be no different then USC. Every year USC beats no one and gets a bid into a BCS games. If USC played a hard schedule like a texas, oklahoma or almost any team in the SEC I think they'd be 2-3 lost team and wouldnt get these bids they get now.

Bull****, Ohio State lost to two top 10 teams, you can't use last season and the season before against them.

It was 31.
thegoldlaw: Shut the ****, your a ****ing idiot, guess who's played the toughest out of conference schedule this decade? USC. Guess who beat more currently ranked teams, USC or Oklahoma? They're tied. Go the **** away, they've gone, what, 6-1 in BCS games, the only loss against a one of the greatest single game performances ever to go along with ridiculous blown calls on replay and still lost by 3. The Pac 10 has just as many good teams as the SEC this year, I'm tired of this bull**** about how USC should be punished for their conference schedule.
Edit: Nevermind, because Cal somehow stayed out of the rankings and Missouri actually moved up in one poll Oklahoma has beaten more ranked teams, technically. But my point stands.

Ohio St robbed Miami and they been living off that victory for way to long now. The big 10 as a whole is really down right now. Ohio St did what in the prior 2 years in BCS games? The only big 10 team that showed anything was Michigan when they beat florida.

Way to ignore my point. You can't judge teams based on what they did last year or the year before.

Ok this year Ohio St hasnt beaten anyone. K thx

outscored 48-9 in those loses too.. OUCH

That looks pretty but they got blown out by USC (The no. 5 team) and narrowly lost to Penn St., the number 7 team. They destroyed several solid, 9/10 win teams, not something to be ignored. But let's not get sidetracked. They lost a close game to Penn St. and got blown out by USC. You say USC hasn't played anybody then use Ohio St.'s loss to them to make a point about how they're not a good team.

As I mentioned before if you schedule 2 big teams and then have a fluff schedule you can make the Nation Championship. The problem is Ohio St dropped both their big games. Ohio St right now is a 2 Lost team lets see who should be ranked higher then them (In no order). Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech,Florida, Alabama,Utah, Boise St,USC, Penn St. That right there is 9 teams that are above Ohio St and there is only 10 bids for the BCS games. 2 Of which are auto-bids to the ACC/Big East, so with that said Ohio St should NOT be playing in any BCS game rather a lower bowl.

And with USC they may schedule 1 hard game on their schedule and have all season to circle the game and get all hyped up for it. Never have I've seen USC play a hard schedule except maybe the last game of the season. But USC themself has proven any team is able to circle a single game in the season and give 110% and win that game. See USC vs UCLA, Oregon, Oregon St and STANFORD etc over the past couple of years.

This is how I'd ideally have the bowl games this year:

Texas Vs Florida
Oklahoma vs Alabama
Texas Tech vs USC
Penn St Vs Boise
Utah Vs Cinny

The truth is without a layoff it's just meaningless speculation.

OSU was without it's best player, it was on the road and several calls went against them.

If Ole Miss, Iowa and Oregon State played each other anyone of the three could beat any of the other two.

Those are of course the teams Florida, Penn State and USC lost to respectively.

Saying anyone of those one loss teams is less or more deserving then Alabama, Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma which all lost to fellow one loss teams.

Then you got Boise State and Utah undefeated, how can you deny them a shot?

Even my proposed system leaves one out (Texas Tech) but they did get beat by 50 so how can they whine?

That Playoff would be amazing...

Imagine Week One Four games featuring those eight teams squaring off...

Week Two: Florida vs. Oklahoma and Alabama vs. Texas

Played in the Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl!!!

Then the winners square off the next week in the National title game.

The BCS is a hype machine, without the BCS the NFL would dominate football in america simply due to FFL. I remember the NFL before ffl and alot of people around me had no clue who any players were beyond their team and their respective division. The BCS like FFL makes people aware of the other teams around them and the players for those teams. This awareness means more money and more hype for the colleges and advertisements.

You're leaving Va Tech out...

I agree that Ohio State is not worthy of a BCS bid, but by the rules they are the best available team.

The BCS is best for TV...that's where the money is. Advertising and network contracts. The BCS is just a glorified bowl system with the addition of a "#1 vs. #2" title game added.

What are you trying to say? Texas Tech can't go to a BCS bowl game, the Big 12 already has two teams in. I never said OSU deserved a BCS bowl anyways.

Go look at the teams they've played and you'll see this is bull****. They have played the toughest OOC this decade. Their performance in bowl games makes your point irrelevant anyways. Especially seeing as you didn't even respond to half my argument.

Thats awesome.. the Pac 10 is BAD so I really would hope USC's OOC was the toughest. Its 1 game out of their 12-13 game schedule. In the big 12 the top 3 teams have played 3 harder games in conference then USC this year has played OOC.

And haven't you preached the whole time "It doesnt matter what happened last year?"

The Big12(killedtheraindog) looks pretty weak to me, No defense anywhere...Texas Tech is a team that plays nobody outside of conference.

Its hard when you have 3 Qbs who easily could be a starter on half the NFL teams. Big 12's offense is far superior to any other conference. Doesnt hurt 4 out of the 5 heisman people are Big 12.