the official **** the vikings thread

[Thom Yorke]

Originally Posted by Sparky

welcome back fwd.

That sucks. Of course the one year we actually could have used toby he's gone. This is the first time we haven't had a decent running back in like 14 years? Even when we had culpepper/moss we had micheal bennet and robert smith.

Would Ray Lewis have had a career in this league?

The media would have burned Lewis at the stake and the Ravens would have cut him if it was in today's world.

It's going to be tough for sure. Just look at the upcoming schedule: facing a motivated Saints team at home, and going to Green Bay are basically guaranteed losses, it'll be tough to stop the Falcons' passing attack, and the Lions and Bills are wildcards with them both playing exceptional football at points in the first two weeks. Then with the last two games before the bye, they face a Redskins team that is another wildcard with their QB situation, and, while the Bucs look bad, road games are always a toss-up. I'm thinking something like 3-6 at that point.

[Forward To Death]

It's almost disturbing how much people care about this kind of stuff.

[Thom Yorke]

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

It's almost disturbing how much people care about this kind of stuff.

Reminds me of this lol. He's talking about a different topic, but whatever. Same concept of the media just laying on someone whenever something happens.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by Thom Yorke

Reminds me of this lol. He's talking about a different topic, but whatever. Same concept of the media just laying on someone whenever something happens.

I was thinking more Carlin when he was talking about how when you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show and when you're born into America, you're given a front-row seat. I think we're seeing the freak show in action right now. Look on the Vikings social media pages. Some of the most vile rants you'll find are from people who claim to be against this "primitive behavior".

Public opinion is huge in America, because in a free-market society there's nothing more important than reputation. Our entire system is based off of credit. AP is no longer a reputable citizen in the eyes of average Americans, and that's why he's going to be cut if he's found guilty. It'll be a business decision, and look no further than sabermetrics to see that people have accepted the business aspect of sports. It's no longer about the sport, it's about making money.

[Sparky]

Eh. I'm trying to stay impartial. He did hit a 4 year old kid with a switch. If the kid was 8 it's a different story, four is pretty young.

Child abuse, at least by my estimation, implies a notion of a sort of sadistic intent or mental derangement by the perpetrator. This comes off more as absent mindedness. I'm not saying just because he's imitating his father it isn't child abuse, but as it being the primary motive it seems more defensible than it on its own.

Should it be punished? Certainly. It's going to be a slippery slope if your going to go this route. A lot of hall of famers may not have become so. I believe that the NFL has the aptitude to punish accordingly on a case by case basis without steeping over and targeting everything. However putting AP in perspective with all the other abusers--who've done worse, no less--in that view, it doesn't seem fair.


Something tells me companies are only going out for a while like they tend to do. Kobe, Tiger, Ray all had their issues but eventually got their sponsors back. A.P might have to sit it out, and come back with another team.

[Forward To Death]

Originally Posted by Sparky

Eh. I'm trying to stay impartial. He did hit a 4 year old kid with a switch. If the kid was 8 it's a different story, four is pretty young.

Child abuse, at least by my estimation, implies a notion of a sort of sadistic intent or mental derangement by the perpetrator. This comes off more as absent mindedness. I'm not saying just because he's imitating his father it isn't child abuse, but as it being the primary motive it seems more defensible than it on its own.

Should it be punished? Certainly. It's going to be a slippery slope if your going to go this route. A lot of hall of famers may not have become so. I believe that the NFL has the aptitude to punish accordingly on a case by case basis without steeping over and targeting everything. However putting AP in perspective with all the other abusers--who've done worse, no less--in that view, it doesn't seem fair.


Something tells me companies are only going out for a while like they tend to do. Kobe, Tiger, Ray all had their issues but eventually got their sponsors back. A.P might have to sit it out, and come back with another team.

Like I said, I don't support hitting your kid at all. I think there are much better ways to punish someone than pretty much teaching them that violence is the answer to whatever problem you might have.

That's not really even that bad of a beating, or anything out of the ordinary for physical discipline, though. It's more effective than not doing anything and letting your kid know that there are no major consequences for their actions, and some people just don't know how to discipline any other way. The truth is, if you're an ******* in real life you can have a lot worse happen to you than a swollen backside.

[Thom Yorke]

That's exactly what we needed to see on offense for the Vikings to have success post-AP. They blended McKinnon and Asiata's strengths perfectly.

[Sparky]

yuup, teddy easily the best rookie qb of this draft. I like this offense as it is.

Defense, especially third down is atrocious, we're 2nd worst in the league. Teams can still run too effectively. Xavier rhodes had a solid game, and anthony barr is impressive.

Defensive line is a concern as well. That was a pretty beat up atlana line, and we still couldn't produce a sack until nearly the end of the game. Haven't seen much from griffen, though robinson did get a couple nice pressures.

linval joseph has been effective as well.

Would like to see patterson do punt returns as well as kick returns. Sherels is nice, but every time i see him make a decent run i think it would have been a td with cp. Hester does both, why not patterson.

[Forward To Death]

The Ponderosa gets the start. Let's see what he can do.

[Thom Yorke]

Goddamn, Ponder is lucky. Who would have thought he'd be the starter for the Vikings a few weeks into the season? Then back home to his super-hot wife.