Thom Yorke

True.

Dr_Rez

**** yea man. They also have the best beards in the league aside from being the best. When I was younger I won a contest and got to ride a Zamboni after the first period during a game. Was AWESOME.

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Thom Yorke

Not quite.





vs.

former Bruin though...

TheBig3

I can't believe you're trying to say Bob Ross and some pedo have better beards than the B's.

Their bears!

Dr_Rez

You got the Bruins beard photo from a bad angle...not fair.

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MoonlitSunshine

Say what? The only thing I have seen anyone in this thread disagree with you about is the grounds on which you believe eSports should be called Sports, namely the distinction of physical exertion. I can't see one post in this thread that actually says "eSports require no talent" in any shape or form.

You started this thread to ask people's opinions. Since you got them you haven't stopped aggressively attacking the viewpoints of those who are disagreeing with you...

I have no problem with eSports. I think they're great. I think they're a fantastic MENTAL activity. However, I do not think they should be given the moniker of "Sports" because "Sports" are a predominantly PHYSICAL activity. The distinction needs to be made, because if it isn't, people lose sight of the balance that is required between the physical and the mental. Both are extremely important for a balanced person, but there's a reason we differentiate between the two. Am I "deligitimising" eSports because of this? How?

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TheBig3

I don't even know how we begin to have a conversation if you don't refute a counterpoint.

"Its purely physical!"
"Says who? Here are a few ways they aren't physical"
"But sports are physical!"

/splosions

As for your debasing of the eSport arena, its primarily based on your failure to group them with something that fits the description. Track, Boxing, Bowling, Fishing...they're all sports.

How are they different than eSports?

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GuitarBizarre

I think he's saying that thus far nobody has outright **** on eSports.

Of course, thats bull****. Its hardly overreacting to say that when you make a thread like this over a discussion wherein people tried to delegitimise the concept of eSports, and then someone like Above spends the next few days or weeks periodically making snide jabs at the concept in OTHER threads, then its pretty much read that those people are delegitimising the concept of eSports by trying to mock them.

And thats also entirely corroborated by comments such as

This very clearly dismisses the entire discussion on no logical ground.
This delegitimises the concept of eSports by implying something nobody said, and further implying that people who subscribed to that statement were "lesser" than people who agreed with Pedestrian's view.
This is appeal to ridicule. It seeks to delegitimise eSports by providing absurd examples of non-sports in an effort to undermine my rationale for defining sports the way I do. Ultimately it failed because I remained consistent in my view.
Same here.
Same here.
Another appeal to ridicule, if taken seriously. Pedestrian tells me this was a joke.
This is Il Duce trolling, trying to turn the discussion to another end entirely in order to appease his own awful sense of humour.



So you can easily see that yes, people have been either actively trying to delegitimise, or outright mocking, the concept of eSports from BEFORE the thread even started, and throughout it.


Secondly, there is no definition we have yet found that outright excludes eSports from being considered sports.

Thirdly, this: "The distinction needs to be made, because if it isn't, people lose sight of the balance that is required between the physical and the mental. Both are extremely important for a balanced person, but there's a reason we differentiate between the two."

This is complete bull****. Sports are competitive activities. Thats what they are, 100%. For something to be considered a sport it must be competitive. What you just described does not take that into account, and even putting aside the physical vs skill based sports argument, anyone can see that what you just defined was "Exercise". We have a word for it. Nobody who isn't a ****ing dumbass will be confused by applying "sports" to eSports, because its patently obvious which activities can contribute to which side of the balance for physical and mental activity, and the delineation between the two is NOT the delineation that defines sports, even in a contemporary usage biased towards physically strenuous models.

Practically speaking, by doing this you're defining "sports" as "That which contributes to a healthy physical being", which is completely insane when you realise that implies that a great many forms of NONCOMPETITIVE, and therefore non-sport, activities, fall under that umbrella.

Sports are competitive forms. There is no rationale we have yet been provided with to consider sports as having a bar of physical requirement.

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TheBig3

To be fair, he named himself after a Fascist Nazi sympathizer. I don't think he has a non-troll setting.

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