InterGender Sports

The Batlord · 10-17-2016, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

That was eSports specific. Why in a sport where women are welcome to compete vs men and along side them, do they seldom do it, and when they do, it is with other women instead of mixed?

I think the problem starts with women wanting to prove to men that they can out compete them so there is a tendency to bond together instead of dispersing themselves among the majority. Sexism is most likely to blame for this mentality to begin with, but that still doesn't change the fact that when given the choice the majority of women choose to ignore the option. Again, this is strictly from an eSports perspective as idk fuck all about "real" sports.

I tried finding reputable sources, but I really don't know any of the sites I saw when I Googled "men and women's reaction speeds", but all of the ones I glanced at agreed that women did not have as good reaction speed as men, and I'm sure with any sport that difference would be crippling, and eSports would be no different.

StarCraft players peak around their mid-twenties and then decline shortly afterward, which is an even quicker turnover than tennis, where you can at least make it to thirty before being forced to retire. And much of that is due to reaction speeds deteriorating around that age, and the sites I looked at also suggested that women maintained peak reaction speeds for a shorter period of time than men.

YorkeDaddy · 10-17-2016, 09:17 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comm...yed_the_uswnt/

The UNDER 17 Men's National Soccer Team beat the USWNT 8-2. Not even close to the best team the US Men can field

This thread is a desperate attempt at making some grand point but is not taking any logic or facts into account. Even in golf women would not be able to compete under the same circumstances. Have you ever been on a golf course? The "women's tee" is generally a 20+ yard handicap closer than the men's. Women don't even play on the toughest, most famous golf courses in the world (like Augusta National). It's not a sexist thing it's just how things ****ing are, jesus christ

~~Cuthbert~~ · 10-17-2016, 09:52 AM

Also as far as I'm aware, nothing on the FIFA website prohibits a woman from playing in a full national team, they aren't 'men's' teams, they're first teams. Women's teams exist because women have no chance of playing in a full national team.

I remember reading about it when this article got published - https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...p-women-sexism

DwnWthVwls · 10-17-2016, 10:09 AM

What about a sport like horse racing? idk anything about it, but i think its segregated and i assume it might be one of the few instances where biology gives women the competitive advantage.

Key · 10-17-2016, 10:26 AM

InterGender Sports should be allowed as much as eSports should be allowed to be considered a legitimate sport.

The Batlord · 10-17-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

What about a sport like horse racing? idk anything about it, but i think its segregated and i assume it might be one of the few instances where biology gives women the competitive advantage.

I don't see why a female jockey wouldn't be able to be just as successful or more than a male, due to lower body weight. I guess the reaction speed might be an issue, but I suppose a highly trained race horse might make up the difference to a degree. But I don't really know anything whatsoever about horse racing anyway, so that's just a guess. But I'd support merging men and women in that sport (although I'd be perfectly happy to have the sport itself abolished altogether).

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Originally Posted by Ki

InterGender Sports should be allowed as much as eSports should be allowed to be considered a legitimate sport.

Upon further consideration I think it might only work with certain sports. If a woman tennis player could hold her own against men then I see no problem (though I doubt many if any would be able to go toe-to-toe with Novak Djokovic or Rafael Nadal), but full-contact sports like American football and hockey sounds like a bad idea. Not only would women likely be more prone to injury (differences in bone density for instance), but I imagine a linebacker tasked with crushing a female running back like a twig as he would a man might very well hesitate and hold back, which would undermine the integrity of the game.

That last point is conjecture, but I know I would be hard pressed to full body tackle a woman without any hesitation, and I imagine the majority of males would feel the same.

Key · 10-17-2016, 10:41 AM

If certain rules are agreed upon, I don't see why one would have to hold back if a woman were facing off against a man. Plus, women tend to get underrated for their physical strength and often times could easily take on a man of equal stature in a football match, or even wrestling. But it would have to be on a case by case basis, of course.

The Batlord · 10-17-2016, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

If certain rules are agreed upon, I don't see why one would have to hold back if a woman were facing off against a man. Plus, women tend to get underrated for their physical strength and often times could easily take on a man of equal stature in a football match, or even wrestling. But it would have to be on a case by case basis, of course.

What rules? Football has already been sanitized enough. Making rules to protect the women would do them no favors in the eyes of the public, and likely their teammates as well. And if you'd have no trouble using as much physical force on a woman as you would a man, then either you're open-minded as **** or are possibly a dangerous psychopath. Either one.

And whether or not they're underrated you can't argue with science. Take the world's strongest man and woman and have them go blow for blow and see which one ends up in the hospital.

Key · 10-17-2016, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

What rules? Football has already been sanitized enough. Making rules to protect the women would do them no favors in the eyes of the public, and likely their teammates as well. And if you'd have no trouble using as much physical force on a woman as you would a man, then either you're open-minded as **** or are possibly a dangerous psychopath. Either one.

And whether or not they're underrated you can't argue with science. Take the world's strongest man and woman and have them go blow for blow and see which one ends up in the hospital.

I was more so saying they could make up their own rules to establish an agreeable term while still pertaining to the pre-existing ones. Though I suppose that takes away from the equality aspect if you have to succumb to changes to fit the needs of both sides.

And I implied the man vs woman thing on a case by case basis because there are women that have no problem being tackled by a man in a given sport, but like I said, it's a case by case basis.

The Batlord · 10-17-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

I was more so saying they could make up their own rules to establish an agreeable term while still pertaining to the pre-existing ones. Though I suppose that takes away from the equality aspect if you have to succumb to changes to fit the needs of both sides.

What rules though? Like a face mask rule for tits?

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And I implied the man vs woman thing on a case by case basis because there are women that have no problem being tackled by a man in a given sport, but like I said, it's a case by case basis.

I don't it's the women's willingness to be tackled that is the issue. Like I said, I doubt most men, and especially meathead jocks, would be comfortable with physical violence against women they weren't married to. /micdrop

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Also as far as I'm aware, nothing on the FIFA website prohibits a woman from playing in a full national team, they aren't 'men's' teams, they're first teams. Women's teams exist because women have no chance of playing in a full national team. I remember reading about it when this article got published - https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...p-women-sexism

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Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	InterGender Sports should be allowed as much as eSports should be allowed to be considered a legitimate sport.

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Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	If certain rules are agreed upon, I don't see why one would have to hold back if a woman were facing off against a man. Plus, women tend to get underrated for their physical strength and often times could easily take on a man of equal stature in a football match, or even wrestling. But it would have to be on a case by case basis, of course.