The English Football Thread

02-08-2013, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Face

Oh, how many times had rooney won the ballon d'or?

I agree with you that Owen was better than Rooney, however using the Ballon d'Or to strengthen your argument is poor. We saw from the list of votes that got published this year that it's not an accurate indication of a player's talent.

Thierry Henry was robbed in 2004. Robbed. The reason Ronaldinho won it that year was because he had a better brand, got votes from all the smaller countries, similar to how many people voted Balotelli this year even though he'd done nothing for City but had a good tournament with the Euros.

Mate that list of players you said were English and better than Rooney is really bad. Can't agree there.

Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Cole, Beckham, Rio. I agree with, Baines, Terry, Johnson and Carragher, no. Terry is an average defender btw, he's only rated so highly because he makes a mistake then throws himself in at the last minute to save the ball ala World Cup 2010 or the time Diaby nearly killed him. His poor reading of the game is the reason he ends up in so many of these last ditch tackles.

Face · 02-08-2013, 05:10 PM

True, the ballon d'or isn't the strongest of points, but at least it's an actual point!

As for defenders...it's harder to get rated as a CB really anyway. Maybe I overreacted with him being rated ABOVE all the others so included ones in the same ballpark too, whatever. You agreed with 60% of them so it can't be that bad!

**Goofle** · 02-08-2013, 06:46 PM

You guys are trying too hard. Yeah, I may rate Allen highly, but that's based on in depth analysis of his game. The fact that you can call Terry an average defender is just going too far.

Face · 02-08-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

You guys are trying too hard. Yeah, I may rate Allen highly, but that's based on in depth analysis of his game. The fact that you can call Terry an average defender is just going too far.

In depth? After our subjective opinions clashed and you wouldn't accept the obvious(yours of which is in the complete minority ) I did the in depth analysis, and he was found wanting on all fronts bar the accuracy of short passes. Brendan's even had to drop him from the first team, maybe Brendan doesn't want him showing the rest of the team up.

But I agree that terry is above average, just like rooney!

**Goofle** · 02-09-2013, 04:57 AM

Playing well/Being a quality player are not the same thing.

Face · 02-09-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Playing well/Being a quality player are not the same thing.

Butter is not cheese but they're both dairy products.

02-09-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Face

Butter is not cheese but they're both dairy products.

Haha that is class.

02-09-2013, 12:33 PM

Terry is another case of a player being built up to be better than he is because he is English. Would take Carragher over Terry any day.

**Goofle** · 02-09-2013, 12:56 PM

Yeah, good argument.

Terry was a World Class defender, now he's just good. Always better than Carragher.

02-09-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Yeah, good argument.

Terry was a World Class defender, now he's just good. Always better than Carragher.

Lol no, he is a liability. He's been making cock ups for years.

But he's brave isn't he?

02-08-2013, 05:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Face Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: UK Posts: 306	True, the ballon d'or isn't the strongest of points, but at least it's an actual point! As for defenders...it's harder to get rated as a CB really anyway. Maybe I overreacted with him being rated ABOVE all the others so included ones in the same ballpark too, whatever. You agreed with 60% of them so it can't be that bad!

02-09-2013, 12:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cuthbert Guest Posts: n/a	Terry is another case of a player being built up to be better than he is because he is English. Would take Carragher over Terry any day.