One more goal in this, either way.

A shame if Liverpool don't win.

really? i think they played like ****e for a good 70 minutes of the game. feel we deserved 3 points but obviously given the circumstances we were lucky to get the draw. there's not really any excuse for the combination of pogba, mk, and ibra to not create multiple goals in a game, and the fact that it took until the 84th minute unbelievable.

**** result but could be worse, but this is evidence we need to tighten up if we really want that top 4 finish.

also lol @ pogba not being subbed off despite being the worst player on the pitch. i don't care how good you are or how much we paid for you, if you're going to play like that you need to be sat on the bench.

A shame for me. I want someone other than Chelsea to win the league as they are closing in on our number of league wins.

i think this game was evidence that liverpool lack that big match experience which is going to hurt them near the end of the season. i think they have a great team, esp. when everyone is healthy, but their age and inexperience is going to cost them down the line.

Juventus have annoyed their fans by changing their crest to this:

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...1/juventus.jpg

I can understand why they're so angry.

Because I'm bored here are some of my favourite crests.

http://soccerlogo.net/uploads/posts/...fc-rangers.png

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...dc604e1781.jpg

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/cont.../11/crest1.gif

https://www.genesissports.co.uk/wp-c...arts-crest.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_2012.svg.png

https://www.brandsoftheworld.com/sit...?itok=NjyixEsr

I like the embroidered crests on shirts with just the logo and no shield/writing like Spurs with the cockerel, Liverpool's Liverbird etc. Arsenal should do that with their cannon. MU with the devil etc.

yeah I've been seeing the outrage on Twitter. tbh I don't mind it. it's not great and doesn't come near their previous one, but I find it has a very Italian look about it that fits the club.

I think they will change it back or do what Everton did and consult the fans on a new crest design.

I was thinking that to be honest - usually better to give the fans some input, if anything just to minimise the backlash of those who don't like it

Our old owner ran a poll in the newspaper I think it was on aspects of the design (shield or circle, full name or initials etc) and went with what the fans voted for and we ended up with the worst crest of all time.

It looked like a camp lion juggling a star and the slightly altered current version is not much better.

btw welcome, hope you stick around.

Cheers mate :) I think it's an interesting one with including fans, it will only ever go one of two ways and generally the fans don't have good ideas (which is way clubs pay professionals to design stuff) BUT sometimes just giving them a feeling of inclusion is enough to say "we took all of your suggestions and matched it with the branding to come up x/y/z".

I know some everton fans that still don't like the current crest but are happy because the fanbase was included in the process.

Weird :crazy: