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Old 05-08-2012, 12:58 AM   #21 (permalink)
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So my question is, can you teach yourself to sing? Can you improve on your vocals purely by practising yourself without any 'professional' training? Because honestly, I'm way too busy to go to singing lessons or anything, finding time to practice piano/bass/guitar is hard enough
If you ask me, than yeah I think so. I`m also a musician which happens to be displeased with his voice. Hell. Who am I kidding? its horrid (according to my standards). Like...damn. Also. My work takes up 99.9% of my life. I have no life and no time to start learning how to sing. Never had the time, and I probably never will (unless I land a record deal!). However... practicing makes a HUGE difference. Before I started practicing my voice it was unbearable. Dogs would bark, flowers would wilt, birds would fall from the sky, the works... but after I started really practicing, and putting time and effort, I can safely say that my voice sounds reasonable if the music is loud enough (did I mention that I play metal? get the joke? ). Look. I`m being a little sarcastic, but its true. If your like me (if you insist on singing, regardless of the amount of car crashes you may cause), than practicing is a MUST, and it does make a difference. Believe it.

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I try to lie to myself and take comfort in the idea that most people, even known musicians, don't have THAT much of a great singing voice, and that its all in their production. Oh sure I know its not entirely true... but, hey! it gets me throw the night!
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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OK, adding onto this thread:

I used to be a good singer when I was a kid. When I say good singer, I was one of the top few singers in my primary school - got golds at competitions and stuff.
Then my voice broke.
Now when I record myself I think I sound terrible - is it possible and likely for some who used to be a good singer to have a horrible voice post-voicebreak or am I just being to harsh on myself?
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:19 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Just sing more. If you know how to control your voice already its just a matter of training it.
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Old 05-21-2012, 06:26 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I don't know if this helps but some of my favourite singers wouldn't get past auditions for any of the reality shows supposedly finding the next big thing. I couldn't tell you what makes them great but it's not the ability to vocal wank.
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:10 AM   #25 (permalink)
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As with anything else, the more one does things, over time, the better one tends to do them. Progress can be faster with a teacher or books/videos/internet, etc., though.

I'm not a good singer, but at this point have been the "lead singer" in my main band for 16 years now. I have made some incremental progress through trial and error, and simply singing as much as I can, both in the context of my main band, doing backing vocals in other bands, and for that matter just singing in the car or at home with recorded music.

After getting throat cancer almost two years ago, I have had to somewhat re-teach myself, and find my "new voice," which is simply part of finding my "new normal," a process almost all people who've gone through treatment for big C have to do. In some ways I actually like my "(post-)cancer voice" better than before, but I'm very fortunate that I'm "singing" punk rock and roll where gravel can be considered a plus rather than a minus. Normally I'd attribute this opinion to my admittedly oversized ego, but people at shows have said the same, so I know it's not entirely my imagination, haha. Additionally, when we were in the studio late last year, on one of our (relatively) "mellower" numbers I tried to sing in my "old" voice, like a more "normal person," and our record company A&R guy (in the booth) would have none of it, haha!

Not everyone can be a great, or even good, singer. However, almost everyone can become a better singer.
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:33 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't know if this helps but some of my favourite singers wouldn't get past auditions for any of the reality shows supposedly finding the next big thing. I couldn't tell you what makes them great but it's not the ability to vocal wank.
American Idol judges would spit and piss on my favourite singers
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:50 AM   #27 (permalink)
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American Idol judges would spit and piss on my favourite singers
True dat.

I refuse to watch these fake game shows masquerading as having something to do with music. They are pure commerce, about making dosh and finding new tools to make more dosh. And those "lucky" singers who "win" are just those tools. Nothing more.
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I refuse to watch these fake game shows masquerading as having something to do with music. They are pure commerce, about making dosh and finding new tools to make more dosh. And those "lucky" singers who "win" are just those tools. Nothing more.
funny thing is the only one still successful is Kelly Clarkson
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:24 AM   #29 (permalink)
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funny thing is the only one still successful is Kelly Clarkson
Part of that I think is because she takes an active role in writing material, rather than just doing what Massa Simon says.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:29 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Check out loads of videos on youtube - The Obvious choice is Brett Manning, Pete Moody or Seth Riggs but you can also search specifics as someone has already mentioned like just breathing, increase power/pitch etc. Why pay it's all there homeys!
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