Most overrated bands ever?

Antonio · 05-02-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sodacake

The ability to create a great melody still counts as skill. The most beautiful melodies could come in to your head 24/7 but if you don't practice on an instrument and build up your skill you'll never be able to get those melodies out and on to the instrument.

yeah, alot of people don't realize how hard it is coming up with a good melody

Sodacake · 05-02-2009, 01:41 PM

hell, i destroy drake as a finger picker. 8-)

boo boo · 05-02-2009, 05:15 PM

There's nothing objective about a band being overrated.

The basic criteria for being overrated is "a lot people love this band but I don't".

Seriously. How do you measure it? Do you take commercial success, critical acclaim, media coverage and the amount of fans all into account?

What happens when these measurements conflict with each other? Say a band gets no respect from critics and no coverage from the media, yet have a HUGE fan following, like Dream Theater. Are they overrated or underrated? Nirvana are commercial and critical darlings, but they get a lot of unfair and biased hate from a lot of people and their fanbase isn't what it used to be. Are they overrated or underrated?

What's the tie breaker? It's our subjective opinions.

Nothing objective about it at all.

**Janszoon** · 05-02-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

There's nothing objective about a band being overrated.

The basic criteria for being overrated is "a lot people love this band but I don't".

Seriously. How do you measure it? Do you take commercial success, critical acclaim, media coverage and the amount of fans all into account?

What happens when these measurements conflict with each other? Say a band gets no respect from critics and no coverage from the media, yet have a HUGE fan following. Like Dream Theater. Are they overrated or underrated? What's the title breaker? For me it's my subjective opinion that DT sucks ass and therefore they are overrated.

But that's completely subjective, nothing objective about it at all.

Absolutely. That's why it's ridiculous to call someone ignorant or hypocritical for think an artist is overrated.

~~Odyshape~~ · 05-02-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

There's nothing objective about a band being overrated.

The basic criteria for being overrated is "a lot people love this band but I don't".

Seriously. How do you measure it? Do you take commercial success, critical acclaim, media coverage and the amount of fans all into account?

What happens when these measurements conflict with each other? Say a band gets no respect from critics and no coverage from the media, yet have a HUGE fan following, like Dream Theater. Are they overrated or underrated? Nirvana are commercial and critical darlings, but they get a lot of unfair and biased hate from a lot of people and their fanbase isn't what it used to be. Are they overrated or underrated?

What's the tie breaker? It's our subjective opinions.

Nothing objective about it at all.

Thats was very insightful

Freebase Dali · 05-02-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

There's nothing objective about a band being overrated.

The basic criteria for being overrated is "a lot people love this band but I don't".

Seriously. How do you measure it? Do you take commercial success, critical acclaim, media coverage and the amount of fans all into account?

What happens when these measurements conflict with each other? Say a band gets no respect from critics and no coverage from the media, yet have a HUGE fan following, like Dream Theater. Are they overrated or underrated? Nirvana are commercial and critical darlings, but they get a lot of unfair and biased hate from a lot of people and their fanbase isn't what it used to be. Are they overrated or underrated?

What's the tie breaker? It's our subjective opinions.

Nothing objective about it at all.

I wanted to play devil's advocate to this, but you're not giving me much to work with.
Good job.

jackhammer · 05-02-2009, 06:51 PM

We cannot all have the same opinions but at the end of the day that's all they are: opinions. There is no right or wrong. Just tolerance I hope!

sleepy jack · 05-03-2009, 02:48 PM

So basically you're into music statements not music discussion?

jackhammer · 05-03-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

So basically you're into music statements not music discussion?

What is that supposed to mean? I swear you are actually looking for a rise out of me. It's an opinion. Exactly the same as you saying Smith is better than John Martyn. I don't agree with that at all but it's your opinion and I respect that. Smith is gaining a cult following over here with my local indie even having a section dedicated to him which I find surprising considering the longevity of other artists who are also multi talented who don't get decent coverage.

Maybe I'm envious of the fact that John Martyn doesn't have a section dedicated to him but my love for an artist is just as legitimate as yours is.

If you checked my RYM you would see that I have smiths albums jackhammer_go's music - Rate Your Music and I like them. I didn't even say I didn't like him but the reverence he recieves not just here but what I read and see leads me to believe that he is over rated. It's just an opinion Ethan and we are all entitled to them.

boo boo · 05-03-2009, 10:52 PM

Ethan, does everytime that someone gives their subjective opinion regarding an artist you like mean they have to back it up with sources? I could count many instances of you making blunt, slanderous remarks regarding many artists.

And you should know why people are reluctant to argue with you, you tend to get harsher at people who actually do bother to explain their opinions to you.

Forums are weird, it seems that the more polite people try to be when criticizing artists, the more angry their fanboys get.

Ethan, you're constantly asking us to prove our subjective opinions. But what about you? You've made many ridiculous remarks about Led Zeppelin, I've spent 30 minutes on ridiculously long posts giving out many details about their so called stolen songs that biased Zep haters just ignore. I may have been acting like an obsessed fanboy, but at least I took the time to explain my opinions. You basically responded with quotes from biased websites and narrow attacks and complete disregard of facts, especially when you made statements like "all of Jimmy Pages riffs are stolen".

Now I know you, and I know that now you want to bring up Modest Mouse, and say that makes me a hypocrite, maybe it does but this is another thing about you that annoys me, you always desperately try to dig up examples of me being hypocritical, often when it's not even relevant to the discussion, because I'm not the one who flips out over people making only a few slight criticisms of an artist I like, I'm not the one who says people shouldn't slander musicians they don't like EVER. Me doing the same things you do is not relevant at all.

When I say something that's true, calling me a hypocrite doesn't undo the fact that it's true.

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