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Old 05-06-2009, 10:01 AM   #2111 (permalink)
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Firstly you only see it as 'misconceptions' because you dont agree with it. For instance it wouldnt be a 'misconception' if I actually liked the album.
My opinions is based on my perception of the music. How is that not 'something proper'.
I dont really care, I aint going to stop writing so many 'paragraphs' just because you said so or that somebody else does it..
After all 'paragraphs are my friends' after all arent they??
Actually, this wasn't about an album, you were bashing Bono.

You argued that he was hypocritical and from that, it seems you have some kind of misconception that the worth of whatever piles of cash you can raise for poverty / apartheid / education or other good causes is automatically lowered if you yourself is not poor and live in a tiny house with a small car. You also said he was hypocritical basically for having a large carbon footprint, but none of the mentioned causes actually deal with global warming or environmentalism .. Yet another misconception.

You are not using paragraphs which is another one of your problems. The bit of text above this line is a paragraph.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:08 AM   #2112 (permalink)
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Actually, this wasn't about an album, you were bashing Bono.

You argued that he was hypocritical and from that, it seems you have some kind of misconception that the worth of whatever piles of cash you can raise for poverty / apartheid / education or other good causes is automatically lowered if you yourself is not poor and live in a tiny house with a small car. You also said he was hypocritical basically for having a large carbon footprint, but none of the mentioned causes actually deal with global warming or environmentalism .. Yet another misconception.

You are not using paragraphs which is another one of your problems. The bit of text above this line is a paragraph.
I mentioned their music at first then went on to discuss Bono.
What is wrong with that? Of course I know what a paragraph is you nonce..
If I dont want to use them as frequently as you do then thats my decision.
Whether people read my posts or not, its out of the question. If they are actually interested in what I have to say then they will not be judging it by how many letters or words there are before I do a paragraph.
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Based on your U2 area of discussion, your opinion of him seems based on his life outside of music (After suggesting a lot of their music is quality). How can someone be musically overrated based on their hypocrisy in regards to charity anyway? .
I think his music is excellent, up till around Achtung Baby where the music itself got **** and I dont like any of their stuff after then.
Obviously he is musically overrated in that all the music Achtung Baby onwards has been crap (IMO).
The comment about Bono is a seperate thing so trying to twist it wont work im afraid.

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It has got nothing to do with actually understanding what you are writing, it has to do with the readability of your posts. If something is a mess, people are less inclined to read it.
Is it that hard to press 'enter' twice instead of once, once in a while?
If you cant read mate its your fault not mines. Im not going to perfect my posts, it aint an english class...it takes long enough typing them ffs!
Also regarding the 'press enter' comment; yes its extremely difficult actually.

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So why bother in the first place then?? Or is it just a desperate attempt to show off your lame limited edition smileys??
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:14 AM   #2113 (permalink)
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Then why ramble about Bono in this thread, which quite obviously is here to discuss people being musically overrated?

People WON'T read things if they are laid out horribly, nor should they have to. If you are too lazy to add a space here and there, then expect the same laziness to be repaid in regards to reading that text.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:34 AM   #2114 (permalink)
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Then why ramble about Bono in this thread, which quite obviously is here to discuss people being musically overrated?

People WON'T read things if they are laid out horribly, nor should they have to. If you are too lazy to add a space here and there, then expect the same laziness to be repaid in regards to reading that text.
You speak for yourself. I dont think it was 'laid out horribly'. Like I said it isnt an english class, if people dont want to read it then fine but you cant speak for other people.

Here man, Ive tidied it up a little. No excuse for not reading it now!

Now usually youd associate bands that people brand as 'overrated' as being ones that they do not like,
but there are even bands that I like that I know are overrated and it can actually kind of put you off in a sense.


Anyway Ill start by listing the bands that I dislike first:

The Beatles (most overrated of all time (IMO) )

The Rolling Stones (been **** for about 40 years now!)

Guns N Roses (Slash is the most overrated guitarist,
now I know and everyone knows he is an awesome player, but he doesnt show it in his music,
he just like to keep it on the straight and narrow as I would say, I would call him a 'commercial guitarist'), as for Axl Rose (terrible voice).

AC/DC-
what is all the hype surrounding this band, I dont get it, the vocals are ****,
the songs are pretty simple happy go lucky 'hard-rock' tunes. I have recentley heard a few of their songs of PlanetRock which i dont mind
(I think its their early stuff- one song called 'It's A Long Way To The Top'), but still I think they are massively overrated & dont deserve all this hype that surround them.

U2-
Ok fair enough their early stuff is undeniably excellent, but I cant listen to it just for what they are now.
They should have split up just before Achtung Baby as thats the point where I mark them as turning crap.
As for Bono, the biggest hypocrite of them all, he wants to change the world, stop poverty,global warming etc etc.
Lives in a big ****ing mansion, millions in the bank, if he really care he would be setting up his own charities etc etc.
I heard a story about him doing a show somewhere abroad but he had forgot that stupid hat he wears at his gigs-
so he had it flown over on a first class seat on a plane which cost some ridiculous amount.
Now tell me, if he actually cared about the envioronment/global warming he wouldnt be doing such stupid things as these.
He uses these issues to arrange big concerts with the notion that 'we are going to change the world' etc etc but at the end of the day it is just to gain publicity for himself and increase his never ending budget of undeserved millions.

Oasis-
They are so overrated, it gets so ridiculous with them that the press coverage a lot of the time is more focused on their 'antics' & behaviour/personal lifes other than the actual music itself (wonder why..).

I recentley cringed when I saw the latest Q Magazine with Noel Gallagher (genius apparantley) on the front and the caption was something like exclusive interview 'I Hate Liam'. I mean who the **** wants to read that, basically their interviews have been the same since 1994 or abouts when they first came out.

Fair enough their stuff when they first came out (particularly the B-sides) was undeniably good but was massively overblown at the time (personally I feel this was due to it just being mostly dance music which dominated the early 90s in Britain).

They should have (to me) broke up a long time ago as they are like a disease which continually spreads amongst a new brand of 13-14 year olds
who know nothing about music and say 'they are the best', 'Noel is a genius' etc etc; whereas Noel Gallagher is just a happy go lucky strummer,
can hardly play, very mediocre voice, no meaning behind lyrics apart from being high on crack and pissed (wow) and just in general bland and dull.

Nirvana- To me they are massively overrated and I can truthfully say (owning most of their albums) that I only like a handful of their songs-
'Something In The Way', 'Polly' & 'About A Girl'.
I actually rank them as one of the worst grunge bands and this to me is a prime example for bands being judged by their looks/fashion/attitude rather than their actual talent;
if this was the case then Soundgarden's Chris Cornell would be more recognised than he was at the time as to me he has the most powerful vocals I have ever heard in my life (& Ive heard a hell of a lot of music).

Also I dont mean to noise up the 'Kurt Cobain Worshippers' but I think that his death (although tragic) really added to the hype surrounding them
& I think it would have been much different had he survived.

The Smiths-

Now Im moving into artists whom I am actually a fan of but not blind to how overrated they are. I like this band a lot but cant really get past the 'Very Best Of'.

Now Im maybe being a bit premature as I've only got 'The Queen Is Dead' album but to me the album tracks on it do nothing for me and I really dont see all the hype surrounding them.
I would class them as a good singles band and I dont really see why they should get all the praise they do as for instance you wouldnt champion the 'Lightning Seeds' (whom are a nother good singles band) in the same way you do with the Smiths would you?
I personally prefer Morisseys solo work and have recentley been getting more and more into it.

Dire Straits-

Now this is one of my favourite (what I would call) 'inconsistent' bands (others such as Foo Fighers & Manic Street Preachers come to mind).
I have all the albums apart from 'Making Movies' & 'Communique' but also have the 'Sultans Of Swing- Best Of' so have heard songs like 'Tunnel Of Love' which is one of their best songs (IMO).

My favourite album is 'On Every Street' (1991) which was their last ever album and to me the most accomplished and the best embracing a lot of different styles throughout the album. (couple of filler tracks such as 'The Bug' + 'Heavy Fuel') but apart from that this is a great album.
As for 'Brothers In Arms' I think it is perhaps the most overrated album of all time as everything on the album just seems so bland.
I tolerated 'Money For Nothing' & 'Walk Of Life' for a while and now just cant stand to listen to any of this album any more perhaps with one exception 'So Far Away'.
I think probably (On Every Street aside as being my personal favourite) Love Over Gold is their best album simply for the fact it is brilliant from start to finish and perhaps the only Dire Straits album (although Ive not heard the aforementioned two) to stand out all the way through from start to finish.

I also think Mark Knopfler is totally overrated as a guitarist and he seems to pretty bland and I have never really heard anything innovative from him at all.

Although I have a few of his albums 'Golden Heart' (his first one which I didnt really like at all), 'The Ragpicker's Dream' (second one I bought and wasnt much more impressed, although slightly better)
& more recentley I purchased 'Sailing To Philadelphia' which a few of the tracks on it I would cite as being brilliant,
although I think its not much better than the other two.
I also have the album he did with Emmylou Harris 'All The Roadrunning' which I havent listened to yet but have been told it is very good.

Anyway there are probably more bands that I think are overrated (some not even worth posting on here/some I just cant remember just now)
I hope this has given an insight as to how I see hype & also that I still sometimes see bands that I actually like are way over hyped.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:42 AM   #2115 (permalink)
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I think the Ramones are also horribly overrated.
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I think the Ramones are also horribly overrated.
Yeah I dont think theyre that good, I hate theyre song 'Hey Ho Lets Go' -rubbish (IMO).
Although I probably havent heard enough of their music to pass proper judgement upon them.

I only have one of their albums entitled 'Brain Drain' & was a much later one from late 80s.
I bought it after hearing Pearl Jam's live cover versions on 'Live At The Gorge' box set.
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Yeah I dont think theyre that good, I hate theyre song 'Hey Ho Lets Go' -rubbish (IMO).
The song you call 'Hey Ho Lets Go' is called "Blitzkrieg Bop" and is one of the punk movement's most memorable anthems.
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I think the Ramones are also horribly overrated.
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The song you call 'Hey Ho Lets Go' is called "Blitzkrieg Bop" and is one of the punk movement's most memorable anthems.
Ok lol why is it called that??
Yeah I know all about it, its pretty popular but it doesnt do anything for me TBH.
I aint a big punk fan TBH although I used to dig The Clash a lot
& Im a big Joy Division fan.
By the way since I mentioned that Ramones album 'Brain Drain'
Im actually listening to it just now and its alright,
I get a big impression it aint one of their best though.
I think there was a movie around about the same time album was released.
Also if your wondering which album, its the one with the daft xmas song they did.
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By the way since I mentioned that Ramones album 'Brain Drain'
Im actually listening to it just now and its alright,
I get a big impression it aint one of their best though.
If anything it's their worst.
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