Should People Posting Nothing But Youtube Videos Be Treated As Spammers ?

Howard the Duck · 08-23-2011, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

As I pointed out in my previous long post, Love-song has put her heart and soul into her video posts in addition to some commentary while also interacting with other members. If that isn't quality, what *is* quality?

I'm more concerned whether the quality of the community environment at MusicBanter invites people to share their feelings and opinions about music, and less concerned about how detailed their write-ups and opinions are about music they hear.

If it is acceptable to call Love-song's posts "rubbish" and suggest or say she is a spammer, despite all the evidence I provided to the contrary, why isn't it acceptable to say that a moderator's posts are rubbish?

After reading Love-song's posts and comments, did you feel her posts warrant her being considered a "spammer," even when she explains that she is posting song videos and appreciating them due to her love for the man in her life who is overseas (presumably in the military)?

if you want my 2 cents, i find Lovesong exasperating

it's like she's trying to convince herself that she truly is in love

Freebase Dali · 08-23-2011, 12:33 AM

- No, there isn't a limit for Youtube videos. The image limit is 10.

- No, I don't think a random youtube video explaining the technical definition of spam should be a baseline for how we operate our forum. Ultimately, the word is just a word. We're talking about overall forum quality, whether it be focused on videos, or simple posts. We have a long-established rule about posting one-word posts and the like, and I really don't see the difference between that and simply posting a video. But I do understand that there are plenty reasons and opportunities to do just that, and I'm not opposed to it. The point I'm trying to make is that moderators are the ones who can, and should, determine whether someone is here to be a part of the community, or simply fill the forums with posts that have no effort behind them. We already have that covered.

Don't connect that to Love-song. I already explained that I used Love-song as a reference to what most of us know about. I'm not making a case against her specifically, but the behavior that many of us have witnessed. The fact that more people know about that behavior than the stuff you had to go and search for to prove her case speaks volumes. This discussion is not about tallied evidence. It is about a general concept.

Anyway, like I said, I'm not opposed to someone posting one-word posts or a vid and nothing more, if it's not a serial thing. But if it becomes a standard of contribution on this forum, that's where I have an issue. Being that the distinction is for mods to make, I really don't see why this needs to be discussed or voted on.

We have done well enough in the past with no complaints about this particular thing. It's not like some grave injustice is about to be served that you need to defend against.

djchameleon · 08-23-2011, 04:16 AM

The only reason it is being discussed/voted on is to get a sense of what the community thinks is all but in the end you guys will make the final decision on how to proceed with this issue if it becomes a greater one.

**Janszoon** · 08-23-2011, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

No, I don't think a random youtube video explaining the technical definition of spam should be a baseline for how we operate our forum.

I was being playfully ironic homes.

Guybrush · 08-23-2011, 06:39 AM

I don't like posting of youtube videos or images without text describing in some way the content. One of the reasons I consider it spammy is because videos and images are not permanent and don't always work. If a youtube video is blocked in my country and that's all a post has to offer, that post is to me, for all practical purposes, worthless spam.

The video might not be blocked. Perhaps it gets removed after a while. It certainly happens to pictures a lot and when going back to a thread after a year or two, many such posts will be completely worthless. I like the idea of a post having some worth even if it's years down the line, so yeah - I generally consider posts with only youtube vids or pictures to be spam.

Howard the Duck · 08-23-2011, 07:26 AM

i actually quite like looking at images of album covers, rather than checking the music out

cos I've only recently got my backlog of recs from the past 4-5 years sorted out, and have no real intention of checking anything else that is new

Freebase Dali · 08-23-2011, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon

I was being playfully ironic homes.

I know. I was responding to Vegangelica's reaction to it.

Dr_Rez · 08-23-2011, 11:30 AM

This is a pointless thread. If someone just posts videos you dont care about dont watch them.

/end

CanwllCorfe · 08-23-2011, 11:43 AM

It's a tough question. I don't think members who never partake in anything other than posting videos are necessarily spamming, but they're not really giving much of anything to the site either. What to do, what to do.

I'll leave this in the hands of our moderator crew gang troupe.

Guybrush · 08-23-2011, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RezZ

This is a pointless thread. If someone just posts videos you dont care about dont watch them.

/end

For me, I feel the forum posts are becoming so skippable in most topics that I hardly ever bother reading or writing anymore. Spammy posts without content is not why I come here and only hinder me in getting what I want from the site which is some proper discussion on topics that interest me.

Maybe it doesn't matter much if I come here less, but if a lot of people feel the same, it could be a problem.

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08-23-2011, 06:39 AM	#85 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I don't like posting of youtube videos or images without text describing in some way the content. One of the reasons I consider it spammy is because videos and images are not permanent and don't always work. If a youtube video is blocked in my country and that's all a post has to offer, that post is to me, for all practical purposes, worthless spam. The video might not be blocked. Perhaps it gets removed after a while. It certainly happens to pictures a lot and when going back to a thread after a year or two, many such posts will be completely worthless. I like the idea of a post having some worth even if it's years down the line, so yeah - I generally consider posts with only youtube vids or pictures to be spam. __________________ Something Completely Different

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Dr_Rez Registered Jimmy Rustler Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,361	This is a pointless thread. If someone just posts videos you dont care about dont watch them. /end __________________ Best chance of losing virginity is in prison crew Always Checks Credentials Crew nba > nfl crew Shave one of my legs to pretend its a girl in my bed crew

08-23-2011, 11:43 AM	#89 (permalink)
CanwllCorfe Quiet Man in the Corner Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pocono Mountains Posts: 2,480	It's a tough question. I don't think members who never partake in anything other than posting videos are necessarily spamming, but they're not really giving much of anything to the site either. What to do, what to do. I'll leave this in the hands of our moderator crew gang troupe. __________________ Your eyes were never yet let in to see the majesty and riches of the mind, but dwell in darkness; for your God is blind.

08-23-2011, 12:33 AM	#82 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	- No, there isn't a limit for Youtube videos. The image limit is 10. - No, I don't think a random youtube video explaining the technical definition of spam should be a baseline for how we operate our forum. Ultimately, the word is just a word. We're talking about overall forum quality, whether it be focused on videos, or simple posts. We have a long-established rule about posting one-word posts and the like, and I really don't see the difference between that and simply posting a video. But I do understand that there are plenty reasons and opportunities to do just that, and I'm not opposed to it. The point I'm trying to make is that moderators are the ones who can, and should, determine whether someone is here to be a part of the community, or simply fill the forums with posts that have no effort behind them. We already have that covered. Don't connect that to Love-song. I already explained that I used Love-song as a reference to what most of us know about. I'm not making a case against her specifically, but the behavior that many of us have witnessed. The fact that more people know about that behavior than the stuff you had to go and search for to prove her case speaks volumes. This discussion is not about tallied evidence. It is about a general concept. Anyway, like I said, I'm not opposed to someone posting one-word posts or a vid and nothing more, if it's not a serial thing. But if it becomes a standard of contribution on this forum, that's where I have an issue. Being that the distinction is for mods to make, I really don't see why this needs to be discussed or voted on. We have done well enough in the past with no complaints about this particular thing. It's not like some grave injustice is about to be served that you need to defend against.