Freebase Dali

Because whether he has contributed or not, he's still a member of the community, and whether we're addressing him or not, we're really just addressing the community, and he's really just serving as an example.
There are certain things that go beyond what they seem, and this is one of them. If we did not use the opportunity he presented to explain something that is truly relevant to the rest of us, then we would be doing everyone a disservice.

I appreciate your position, however, you must realize that we are not really speaking solely to Sopsych when we reply to Sopsych. The very fact that we are debating this in the open, as moderators, should hint at the fact that we are making our positions known on the topics he is bringing up, in the context of general behavior and perspective.

When we feel like it's no longer productive, you will know it.

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Paedantic Basterd

There's a real possibility that your subtext is going unnoticed, as people may see "Sopsych" in the quotation and skip past all of the circular dramz.

Astronomer

I agree, I don't think a reward system is the best idea. The original posts in this thread were criticising the fact that the forum is very cliquey, I think a 'thanks' or 'like' based system for posts would just make it into even more of a popularity contest.

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sopsych

People here hardly know me or my motives, but like someone else said, there's a forum tendency to be negative toward outsiders and expect the worst.

I thought about the Journal section again and now wonder whether it gets people to join via writings that show up in search engines. I then keyword searched the New Members section about that, without finding relevant recent results. I wish moderators would seriously investigate why the rate of new member contributions has been dropping - making things friendlier is worthwhile in itself and could only help, but what if that plus more music threads don't help enough?

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Dr_Rez

In the last month you have had about 10 posts in the music forums and over 50 in this thread complaining. you didn't participate in the mixtapes/album reviews/journals or really anything else in that time. Not to mention your biggest problem seems to be how we treat new users here. Well everyone else in this thread who is kindly trying to help you out is seen welcoming newbies in all the intro threads...where are you???

A Fraction of the Noobs Not Helped By You
http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...317-hello.html
http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...e-bigmala.html
http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...uron-here.html
http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...2-im-back.html
http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...-new-town.html
http://www.musicbanter.com/introduct...124-hello.html

My point you ask? You have no room to make suggestions or complain if you are not even doing your part.

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GuitarBizarre

Don't forget though Rez - The forum will be amazing once he starts contributing - he just refuses to do so until the forum is changed according to "his vision".

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@Sopsych

i don't think is that easy..
just making more threads won't help it's about the attitude you bring to this place and how you behave around here

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sopsych

Welcoming new members over there hardly seems to help, and it should be done by friendly people who relate to them.

I said I'm not interested in journals. I'm also not interested in mixtapes. What I want is non-technical, non-esoteric, meaningful music discussion. If there were lots of that, my music post count would be higher. It probably also would make more new members stick around.

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sopsych

I have been thinking about topics to post, but I'm not ready to do that. I have to be happier with things first (and have more free time). Meanwhile, to anyone who is already trying to start more conversation, I can (arrogantly) give a few tips for how to get discussion going. The forum needs a bunch of members who are good at that:
An interesting title, probably in question form or as a strongly worded (but not absurd) claim
A subject that hasn't often been asked before
A subject to which a wide variety of readers could respond (not Dio vs. Tony Martin, though that was well-written)
A subject that makes people think and keep thinking (but can be tentatively answered, not like asking what's the best song ever)

One of the lamer thread ideas I have (and mostly abides by that list) is hereby presented, for anyone who wants to steal or improve it:
What's the best solo album by someone usually thought of as a band member?

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Burning Down

I started one here: http://www.musicbanter.com/classical...ant-today.html

Vote and comment if you'd like to.