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Paedantic Basterd · 08-17-2013, 08:37 PM

My issue with karma systems is that they can be used to publicly popularize or shame particular users. Reputation features are tools easily manipulated by groupthink. I honestly, honestly, seriously don't think we need any more avenues through which to create and define user-cliques on this site.

Neapolitan · 08-17-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

My issue with karma systems is that they can be used to publicly popularize or shame particular users. Reputation features are tools easily manipulated by groupthink. I honestly, honestly, seriously don't think we need any more avenues through which to create and define user-cliques on this site.

I totally agree, well said.

Burning Down · 08-17-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

My issue with karma systems is that they can be used to publicly popularize or shame particular users. Reputation features are tools easily manipulated by groupthink. I honestly, honestly, seriously don't think we need any more avenues through which to create and define tuser-cliques on this site.

Having been a member on a few forums with this system, and moderating on one of them, I agree with this. The rep and karma systems are ALWAYS abused. Popular members will get +1 points for crap posts like GIFs and sh*t like that, simply because they are popular users. Reputation systems end up ostracizing members rather than encouraging or rewarding quality posts and good behaviour. I have held this opinion for several years now.

Dr_Rez · 08-17-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down

Having been a member on a few forums with this system, and moderating on one of them, I agree with this. The rep and karma systems are ALWAYS abused. Popular members will get +1 points for crap posts like GIFs and sh*t like that, simply because they are popular users. Reputation systems end up ostracizing members rather than encouraging or rewarding quality posts and good behaviour. I have held this opinion for several years now.

You are completely correct. The other forum I frequent is Bodybuilding.com (misc section) and it has a rep system. Half the threads are rep begging or just rep seeking threads. It works there cuz everyones there to just bull**** but a place like this would be awful with that.

Black Francis · 08-17-2013, 09:05 PM

Clearly this is not the type of forum for a thanks system it wouldn't work here.

but ive seen it work in another forum this is just not that kinda place i guess

TheBig3 · 08-17-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Clearly this is not the type of forum for a thanks system it wouldn't work here.

but ive seen it work in another forum this is just not that kinda place i guess

It wouldn't. I, for example, would thank you to ****ing hell.

Black Francis · 08-17-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

It wouldn't. I, for example, would thank you to ****ing hell.

why?

outta spite? cause my post are stupid? why dammit!? i wanna know!!

djchameleon · 08-17-2013, 09:40 PM

Did someone mention the karma system? Oh yes, bring on the clique wars. Ain't nobody messing with my clique clique clique.

But seriously we couldn't even get the arcade back that we once had how the hell do people thing we would get the karma system implemented?

Freebase Dali · 08-17-2013, 10:44 PM

Sopsych, your concerns are definitely being taken into advisement, I assure you. I'm glad we all have this opportunity to air our grievances on both sides of the aisle of all issues, and that's what this thread is for, in the hopes that we can change things for the better.

Thank you for your contributions, and everyone else as well. I just want to let everyone know that we are not just sitting here defending, but trying to be actively involved in the discussion, which is great for poking holes in either side's approach, and it ultimately helps at the end, because we are all in the position to be a factor of change.

Again, I personally thank all of you, and I'm hoping soon we can move forward to a more positive environment based on the concerns of all involved.

Dr_Rez · 08-17-2013, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I remember that comment. I assume no one replied to it because it was kind of off-topic for the thread it was posted in and didn't really add anything to the discussion. I didn't bother pointing that out at the time because I was just happy to see you actually talking about music for a change of pace.

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

Sopsych, your concerns are definitely being taken into advisement, I assure you. I'm glad we all have this opportunity to air our grievances on both sides of the aisle of all issues, and that's what this thread is for, in the hopes that we can change things for the better.

Thank you for your contributions, and everyone else as well. I just want to let everyone know that we are not just sitting here defending, but trying to be actively involved in the discussion, which is great for poking holes in either side's approach, and it ultimately helps at the end, because we are all in the position to be a factor of change.

Again, I personally thank all of you, and I'm hoping soon we can move forward to a more positive environment based on the concerns of all involved.

I really do not see why you guys are continuing to give this guy your time and attention. He has contributed next to nothing to musicbanter as a whole and just repeatedly complains while doing nothing about it. He has 22 created threads here on musicbanter almost all of which are put together with minimal effort.

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Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	Sopsych, your concerns are definitely being taken into advisement, I assure you. I'm glad we all have this opportunity to air our grievances on both sides of the aisle of all issues, and that's what this thread is for, in the hopes that we can change things for the better. Thank you for your contributions, and everyone else as well. I just want to let everyone know that we are not just sitting here defending, but trying to be actively involved in the discussion, which is great for poking holes in either side's approach, and it ultimately helps at the end, because we are all in the position to be a factor of change. Again, I personally thank all of you, and I'm hoping soon we can move forward to a more positive environment based on the concerns of all involved. __________________

08-17-2013, 08:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	My issue with karma systems is that they can be used to publicly popularize or shame particular users. Reputation features are tools easily manipulated by groupthink. I honestly, honestly, seriously don't think we need any more avenues through which to create and define user-cliques on this site.