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djchameleon 10-14-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757632)
I'm not saying that rape doesn't happen or saying that all people accused of it aren't guilty. But way too many cases are being reported where the girl lies about it and ruins someone's life in the process.

Way too many cases? The amount of false accusations related to rape is something like 4% of all cases. So no, it isn't way too many.

Frownland 10-14-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757632)
I'm not saying that rape doesn't happen or saying that all people accused of it aren't guilty. But way too many cases are being reported where the girl lies about it and ruins someone's life in the process.

It's pretty hard to find numbers on this tbh. How do you think it can be fixed?

Blank. 10-14-2016 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1757634)
Way too many cases? The amount of false accusations related to rape is something like 4% of all cases. So no, it isn't way too many.

4% is too many. Not to mention how ever many more where the person still went to jail despite wrongful accusation.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1757635)
It's pretty hard to find numbers on this tbh. How do you think it can be fixed?

The issue with numbers in this situation is they're going to focus on people who were found not guilty vs people who were found guilty. They can't take into account people who were convicted despite having done nothing wrong.

The Batlord 10-14-2016 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1757627)
Well... I think that's a stretch. There's still an issue with the percentage of accused rapists who are actually convicted. I think it stems from the inability victims have to discuss the matter, and the fact that it can take years before they're comfortable enough to discuss it. I don't have any idea how that could be fixed, but ideally it would be great if it became something that could be more easily reported so that the investigations could begin much earlier.

I imagine the bigger issue is that unless the woman reports the incident and gets a rape kit immediately afterward it can be almost impossible to prove that the accused and the accuser even had sex, let alone that it was nonconsensual.

Key 10-14-2016 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757632)
I'm not saying that rape doesn't happen or saying that all people accused of it aren't guilty. But way too many cases are being reported where the girl lies about it and ruins someone's life in the process.

That's just silly.

Frownland 10-14-2016 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757636)
4% is too many. Not to mention how ever many more where the person still went to jail despite wrongful accusation.



The issue with numbers in this situation is they're going to focus on people who were found not guilty vs people who were found guilty. They can't take into account people who were convicted despite having done nothing wrong.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1757635)
How do you think it can be fixed?

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Blank. 10-14-2016 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1757643)
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Are you asking me how I think the problem can be fixed?

Key 10-14-2016 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757644)
Are you asking me how I think the problem can be fixed?

I'm unsure as to how you'd take the question any other way.

Frownland 10-14-2016 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1757645)
I'm unsure as to how you'd take the question any other way.

^

So yes.

Blank. 10-14-2016 10:17 AM

Eh. I am not going to pretend I'm brilliant and have all the answers. I don't. I have no idea how to fix the issue without limiting freedom. Which is something I'm way more against. Frankly, I'm just mad and bitching about something that pisses me off.

Key 10-14-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1757649)
Eh. I am not going to pretend I'm brilliant and have all the answers. I don't. I have no idea how to fix the issue without limiting freedom. Which is something I'm way more against. Frankly, I'm just mad and bitching about something that pisses me off.

The only thing I can see changing it is if the women in question had to show substantial truth to the rape claims, and unfortunately getting pregnant seems to be the only way to really figure that out. Unless there are way to get the semen out of the women who claims being raped.

Frownland 10-14-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1757652)
The only thing I can see changing it is if the women in question had to show substantial truth to the rape claims, and unfortunately getting pregnant seems to be the only way to really figure that out. Unless there are way to get the semen out of the women who claims being raped.

That's called a rape kit, but there's a limited window of when you can still get testable dna.

The Batlord 10-14-2016 10:25 AM

So has blank made any legit claims about this? Or is he just spouting the usual vague bs about how this is a problem that happens all the time, even though the person making the claim does nothing to make anyone think they're not just buying into nonsense that was probably started by *******s?

Since it's so notoriously hard to prove a rape case, I imagine it's probably infinitely harder to get someone wrongly convicted for it. So I highly doubt there is an epidemic of innocent people being thrown in jail for rapes they didn't commit.

Key 10-14-2016 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1757654)
That's called a rape kit, but there's a limited window of when you can still get testable dna.

Yeah, but I've really never had any doubt that the women in question is spouting lies, at least not to the extend that blank thinks.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-14-2016 10:44 AM

Yeah, from my own experiences it's more of a MRA argument that "so many" men are wrongfully accused of rape. It happens, don't get me wrong, but the idea that a few cases is reason enough to not believe every other rape accusation (not pointing fingers at you blank, just a general statement) is absolutely disgusting imo.

djchameleon 10-14-2016 11:43 AM



This is just the end of the skit but this sorta kinda doesn't even really work but it feels like it's nearing a solution.

Have them sign a contract. I even heard about an app related to this. The only drawback to this is that women can and are allowed to take back consent whenever they want. So this contract/app thing is bad because it just gives the aggressor permission to rape the person and get away with it. It gives them immediate evidence to say, hey she consented even if she withdrew consent later after signing.

The Batlord 10-14-2016 11:52 AM

I'm assuming being able to withdraw consent is tied to alcohol and drugs, or situations involving the accused having misrepresented themselves in a way that could be considered criminal (or something)?

grindy 10-15-2016 05:37 AM

I'm sure no one outside of Germany really gives a ****, but this is a pretty big thing.
Kinda like if it turned out Timothy McVeigh was tied to the murder of Nicole Simpson.

DNA of neo-Nazi terrorist Böhnhardt found near remains of murdered girl Peggy | News | DW.COM | 13.10.2016

Of course there might be the possibility, that this is some kind of lab ****-up.
After all, we still remember this thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn

The Batlord 10-15-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1758272)
I'm sure no one outside of Germany really gives a ****, but this is a pretty big thing.
Kinda like if it turned out Timothy McVeigh was tied to the murder of Nicole Simpson.

DNA of neo-Nazi terrorist Böhnhardt found near remains of murdered girl Peggy | News | DW.COM | 13.10.2016

Of course there might be the possibility, that this is some kind of lab ****-up.
After all, we still remember this thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn

If any little German girls have a connection to a neo-Nazi terrorist cell, it's THAT Aryan masterpiece of a child. She scares me more than the dude.

http://www.dw.com/image/36036152_303.jpg

The Batlord 10-15-2016 09:10 AM

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-15-2016 09:34 AM

Would buy

Plankton 10-15-2016 09:35 AM

Slay me once, shame on you...

ahh phhhht

Frownland 10-17-2016 04:29 PM

Police: Local GOP office in N.C. vandalized, firebombed - CBS News

Tristan_Geoff 10-17-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1759178)

I don't have an opinion on this. I know it happened though.

Frownland 10-17-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1759185)
I don't have an opinion on this. I know it happened though.

And I KNOW YOU DID IT.

Tristan_Geoff 10-17-2016 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by frownland (Post 1759186)
and i know you did it.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Key 10-17-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1759186)
And I KNOW YOU DID IT.

And he would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.

Frownland 10-17-2016 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1759207)
And he would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.

Kids? It was a GOP office.

Key 10-17-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1759213)
Kids? It was a GOP office.

I don't care, I'm just making a joke :(

Stephen 10-19-2016 05:41 PM

Sounds like some crazy goings on in the Philippines.

3400+ extrajudicial killings, 15000 arrests, 700000 surrendered.

djchameleon 10-20-2016 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1757619)
Has he been convicted? Not familiar with this.

It's great seeing all the bellends on Twitter who were so matter of fact that he was 'guilty in a court of law and that's that!' suddenly saying the jury must have got this one wrong and he's still a rapist.

Derrick Rose has been proven to be not guilty in civil court. She was trying to get 21.5 million in damages out of him and he wasn't going to be able to play this season. Suspended but he can now return since he's been proven not guilty.

Derrick Rose found not guilty of sexual assault in civil lawsuit

Cuthbert 10-20-2016 05:08 AM

Ta mate, think it rings a bell.

djchameleon 10-20-2016 05:36 AM

Yeah it ended up being that she texted some of her friends saying how much money he has and ended up trying to trap him but it didn't work and just ends up harming women on a larger scale.

Tristan_Geoff 10-21-2016 02:36 PM

This Is Why Half the Internet Shut Down Today*[Update: It

wtf.

Most of these are working for me though so I think I'm in the clear for now. ****ing awful though.

Frownland 10-21-2016 03:40 PM

So that's why Spotify and Weedmaps were being dicks this morning.

Goofle 10-22-2016 05:30 AM

The Labour Party's Shadow Minister for Domestic Violence committed domestic violence... and Corbyn doesn't seem to have any issue with that at all.

Meanwhile, the same woman thinks Theresa May has failed domestic violence victims.

Lisnaholic 10-22-2016 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1760832)
This Is Why Half the Internet Shut Down Today*[Update: It

wtf.

Most of these are working for me though so I think I'm in the clear for now. ****ing awful though.

^ This is such a strange event, that I was checking it out myself. Here's another link about it, which I'll post here as we don't yet have a Wow I Can't Understand That News Story thread.

'Smart' home devices used as weapons in website attack - BBC News

PS, @ Goofle - yeah, tbh I've lost all respect for the Labour Party. It seems that the only thing they are good at is squabbling among themselves.

Lilja 10-22-2016 09:20 AM

They just banned drones in Sweden today..https://m.reddit.com/r/technology/co...ely_banned_in/

I now live in a country where it is illegal to fly a drone but legal to fly an ISIS flag.

OccultHawk 10-22-2016 09:27 AM

Drones are a bit more dangerous than flags, I figure

Cuthbert 10-22-2016 11:03 AM

Britain's Virtue-Signalling Wankerati Welcome Syria's Refugee Men-Children

Great article. Lineker :o:


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