Unbelievable.

To buy more meth.

Then they need to find a dealer they don't mind giving their address to so they can get that **** delivered.

This is the kind of thing that makes me think it'll be a good day when the Earth is finally rid of us all. Jesus Christ. :mad: Hope they all get the death penalty.

Chula should call his Boston Boys to handle those bitches..

Big Chula and the Boston Boys could be a terrible dad rock band.

Post-grunge jazz fusion.

*shudder*

I almost want to hear that.

I feel like it'd be a blues band though.

:rofl:

Nah, classic rock all the way. Free meets Zep meets Blue Cheer meet whatever the ****....

= old white guy electric blues

They're everywhere.

Now if only Murdoch will follow suit maybe Australia can catch up with the rest of the world without that prick dictating our media laws to his stooges in government.

I wonder if it's those damn Christian terrorists again.

Let's wait for the facts.

Just down the road from where I was working tonight. Not much detail atm.

GMP:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAdyGWnXkAAvsWL.jpg

Wouldn't it be weird if it turns out to be some people affiliated with Islam?

You know my stance on this stuff already but we don't know what's happened yet.

Bomb disposal gone in. Doesn't look or sound like a balloon tbh. Some actress from Emmerdale was on Sky and she said she could smell the burning.

NW counter terrorism guys saying they are treating it as a possible terrorist incident.

Sounds like an explosion in the foyer timed to hit people exiting the arena. Absolutely sickening if it's a deliberate act.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAeFyy9XcAE1P60.jpg

I don't know what to say.

****ing ****s targeting kids at a concert. ****ed.

Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with people? I hope everyone here from the Manchester area is ok. My thoughts are with you guys.

I wonder what the guy with a gun was about.

Why?

Why would I post a song called Bang Bang...

What was the point of it?

The connection. It's in the cosmos man, illuminati ****.

You know it was an Arians Grande concert right?

No it was an Ariana Grande concert.

19 dead. At first I thought this might be a breakthrough hit.

Yeah, I wonder what's wrong with "people".

Maybe they believe in stupid religions and beliefs actually influence behavior. Maybe, even, their belief system is flawed to the core and needs to be considered problematic. Or maybe it's all good. I don't want to be considered a bigot. Yeah. All belief systems are the same. Sorry, it was like I thought I was on to something there. I should be more respectful to deadly cancerous belief systems. My bad.

Jesus. Who would do this? Does anybody know of any certain group of people prone to this kind of thing?

Muslims? Incredible.

The death count is up to 22 and there will be an update at 1:15pm I think.

None of us think this was a good thing. None of us think the bastards who did this aren't evil. We all feel sad and angry and helpless and vengeful.

But Muslims didn't do this. A Muslim did. Wanna know how I know? I can do math. There are 1.2 billion of them. And if the core ideas and practice of Islam is as virulent and cancerous as you seem to think, such attacks would occur every hour on the hour.

So let's mourn the dead, hunt the perpetrators, and not put the blood guilt on 1.2 billion people who bury more of their own children thanks to ISIS and al Qaeda and Jabhat al-Nusra than we do.

No. I'm genuinely shocked that something like this could be perpetrated by someone(s) who adheres to Islam.

smh So out of character. I'm sure it's just a one off...

Unless...and I'm just throwing this out there...unless maybe, just maybe, there's a connection between belief and behavior. No, it couldn't be. That would require bigotry. Discrimination. One would have to say one set of ideals is better than another and that certainly has to be off the table. Glad we got this one solved!

We should definitely jump to conclusions before we have all the facts. That's clearly the best way of operating in the world.

Was I wrong?

You have repeatedly ignored the reasons given for why religiously inspired terrorism is currently more prevalent in the Middle East than elsewhere (You'd be singing a different tune in 1500's France). You've ignored the direct parallels of poverty and hopelessness that give rise to political terrorism and narco-terrorism in South America, Africa, and parts of East Europe/Asia.

Stop with the pathetic strawman that we're saying all ideas have equal merit. That's nonsense. The values that arose from the 1600's European Enlightenment are a clearly superior means of organizing society. Liberals ****ing love Western values. But you keep saying ALL Muslims are terrorists. That ISLAM teaches murder. I find Islam a repellent belief system. Much like all religion that teaches personal abjection. BUT THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN SAYING IF YOU FOLLOW ISLAM, YOU ARE A MONSTER. ****... how is this hard to understand?

Strawman

I never said all Muslims are terrorists.