The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Note that it's from the institution and not from the religious. So how are the Catholics responsible for an institution that bullies them or actively prevents them from holding their church accountable?

By sticking with them once they recognize that the institution is a rape factory.

Also, how are you not jumping to conclusions by assuming that being Catholic automatically means you aren't trying to hold the church accountable?

Because they're supporting the institution.

There's plenty of Catholics, even with in the system, that have tried and are disgusted. Yet you still think it's justifiable to hold them accountable just for having this belief despite the pedophilia having nothing to do with the belief.

Those who have tried and failed but remain Catholic are basically supporting the disgusting institution on a conscious level by not rejecting it. Go to an orthodox church, it's not perfect, but it's basically the same doctrine. You can just cross your fingers on the tangential differences.

Edit: How is this any different from your accusations towards [merit], or how is this any different from OH's bigotry towards Muslims for what happens with in their institutions?

Shucks you got me.

My (falsely equivocated) hypocrisy established, any other thoughts on my ideas?

[Lucem Ferre]

Where's your proof that they still stick with that institution? You're assuming that there are no Catholics that aren't a bit more secular, that they all go to church, pay their 10% and ignore the scandals.

You think they should change their religion to avoid association? You think they should reject their own beliefs and conform to another similar institution just because you think being catholic makes you guilty? Being Catholic doesn't mean you support or are a part of the institution, it just means you have this belief.

Think about it, this is the same **** OH would say about Islam yet you'd reject that bigotry while supporting this one. The only difference is that the thing OH scrutinizes Islam for is ACTUALLY in their doctrine.

Edit: It's not falsely equivocated, it's basically the same exact thing. One's just less taboo than the other.

So how are the Muslims responsible for an institution that bullies them or actively prevents them from holding their church accountable?

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Where's your proof that they still stick with that institution? You're assuming that there are no Catholics that aren't a bit more secular, that they all go to church, pay their 10% and ignore the scandals.

You think they should change their religion to avoid association? You think they should reject their own beliefs and conform to another similar institution just because you think being catholic makes you guilty? Being Catholic doesn't mean you support or are a part of the institution, it just means you have this belief.

vv

Originally Posted by Frownland

Yes, it provides the Catholic church with social value in numbers because if I tell someone that I'm a Catholic and they decide to check it out, they're going to find some wing of the rape institution to learn about it.

^^

It's not like writing a million dollar check to the church, but it's supporting it nonetheless.

Think about it, this is the same **** OH would say about Islam yet you'd reject that bigotry while supporting this one. The only difference is that the thing OH scrutinizes Islam for is ACTUALLY in their doctrine.

I don't define all of Christianity by Catholicism.

[Lucem Ferre]

[Frownland]

How different do you think Catholicism is from other sects of Christianity when it comes to doctrine?


It's an important distinction to make.

[Lucem Ferre]

Originally Posted by Frownland

How different do you think Catholicism is from other sects of Christianity when it comes to doctrine?

I wouldn't know, but different enough that being Catholic used to be taboo. There are people alive that are still shocked to find Catholics dating Christians. Granted they're old, but still.

Edit: And honestly I doubt that you actually know either, since you're obviously speaking from a secular point of view. The statement in it's self is completely condescending and shows a lack of understanding towards their faith. No matter how different they are, they believe that their faith is true. That's something neither of us understand since we both probably think religion as a whole is retarded. So why would you pick this one specific faith as lesser over something that isn't even in their doctrine? Something they've tried to battle and are more victims of than perpetrators? In reality you probably think they shouldn't have any faith at all.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I wouldn't know, but different enough that being Catholic used to be taboo. There are people alive that are still shocked to find Catholics dating Christians. Granted they're old, but still.

Interracial marriage was once taboo and still is for many old people, but genetic disparity between races is basically zero.

Also I think that that taboo is related to a trend of immigrants remaining Catholic while American Christians are largely protestant.

[Zhanteimi]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If someone tells you they’re Catholic you should tell them that’s ****ing repulsive. And they’re repulsive sick people.

I'm Catholic.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Edit: And honestly I doubt that you actually know either, since you're obviously speaking from a secular point of view. The statement in it's self is completely condescending and shows a lack of understanding towards their faith. No matter how different they are, they believe that their faith is true. That's something neither of us understand since we both probably think religion as a whole is retarded. So why would you pick this one specific faith as lesser over something that isn't even in their doctrine? Something they've tried to battle and are more victims of than perpetrators? In reality you probably think they shouldn't have any faith at all.

I brought up orthodoxy for a reason mate. It's basically offbrand catholocism without (widespread) rape.

But yes, I'd like to see a move away from having faith at all.

[DwnWthVwls]

Originally Posted by Zhanteimi

I'm Catholic.

Youre not repulsive and you seem like a really good person but gd youre gullible.