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Chula Vista 10-10-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881596)
Ah I forget that bad guys opposed him which makes him a good guy. Thanks Chules.

Typical.

The conversation was about RICH, WEALTHY, and THOSE AT THE TOP, and not about GOOD or BAD.

Pay attention and stay focused. I know it's hard but I have faith in you.

Frownland 10-10-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881602)
There will never be a great president that all sides will praise. There will never be a viable third party. There will never be anyone who aspires to the highest political office in the land who won't rub elbows with those already in power who they'll need later on down the road to help them pass legistlation and further their agendas. They'll never be a time when certain members here will not rail on me and call me names for not jumping into the dreamers and idealists pool with them.

Believe it or not, many of you cynical ****s are going to move on one day to become the same type of play by the rules person that you currently despise.

I've seen it first hand with most of my friends and peers from 30+ years ago. Trust me, as soon as you own a home, have kids and worry about their future, pay a significant amount of taxes, depend on health care, are planning for your golden years, etc., your outlook on things changes - at least for most people.

For now, simply carry on armchair quarterbacking, and poking sticks at those who fail to see the world thru your ash covered glasses.

Typical condescending post from you. Let me know if you'd like to actually add anything of value to the conversation.

OccultHawk 10-10-2017 01:43 PM

Chula

As a fellow geriatric, I ask you, why do you ALWAYS play the age card?

I'm not saying I've never pulled out the age card but it's not my go to move. A 25 year old might have three of your or my lifetimes of experiences under their belt. I'm old so I'm right doesn't hold water.

Frownland 10-10-2017 01:45 PM

One day you'll grow up and understand, OH.

Chula Vista 10-10-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881608)
One day you'll grow up and understand, OH.

Pay attention and stay focused. The conversation was about MOVING ON, not GROWING UP.

I still have faith in you.

And please don't ever use the word condescending again. People in glass houses and all.........

Cuthbert 10-10-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881609)
And please don't ever use the word condescending again. People in glass houses and all.........

This is correct :D

Frownland 10-10-2017 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881609)
Pay attention and stay focused. The conversation was about MOVING ON, not GROWING UP.

I still have faith in you.

I mean if you really want to get down to it, the conversation is about shutting up because you're uncomfortable when you're not in an echo chamber.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881609)

And please don't ever use the word condescending again. People in glass houses and all.........

Not the point, dumbass. Look up infer.

Chula Vista 10-10-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881611)
your'e uncomfortable when you're not in an echo chamber.

Pay attention. Glass houses.....

Frownland 10-10-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881613)
Pay attention. Glass houses.....

Now that one's a reach that only reflects your own insecurity.

Trollheart 10-10-2017 02:01 PM

Frownland v Chula Vista: the Rematch. This time, it's personal!

Actually, every time it's personal....
:shycouch:
Play nice, guys, or you'll wake up Jansz and he'll shut this thread down too. Tread lightly ....
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Oriphiel 10-10-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881602)
There will never be a viable third party.

Why?

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881602)
There will never be anyone who aspires to the highest political office in the land who won't rub elbows with those already in power who they'll need later on down the road to help them pass legistlation and further their agendas.

Interesting choice of words. So you admit that in our current political system, candidates "need" to play ball with the rich and powerful, or else they can't accomplish anything, even if they theoretically have the support of the masses?

Frownland 10-10-2017 02:13 PM

Donald Trump will never be president. This is simply the way that things work in the real world.

Chula Vista 10-10-2017 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881614)
Now that one's a reach that only reflects your own insecurity.

I know you are, but what am I?

I have 3 questions for you. Stay focused.

Disclaimer: My use of the word different does not infer any of the following - Better than, more mature than, older than, more experienced than, more superior than, more lofty than, more intelligent than,.... you catch my drift. Hopefully.

1. Do you agree that a person who is married and has children might have a different perspective on things (including politics) than a person who is not married and doesn't have kids?

2. Do you agree that a person who owns a home might have a different perspective on things (including politics) than a person who isn't paying a mortgage and property taxes?

3. Do you agree that a person who is inching up on 60 might have a different perspective on things (including politics) than a person in their mid 20s?

To repeat, in case you are not focused:

My use of the word different does not infer any of the following - Better than, more mature than, older than, more experienced than, more superior than, more lofty than, more intelligent than,....

Frownland 10-10-2017 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881626)
1. Do you agree that a person who is married and has children might have a different perspective on things (including politics) than a person who is not married and doesn't have kids?

Any two people can have a different perspective on things.

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2. Do you agree that a person who owns a home might have a different perspective on things (including politics) than a person who lives at home?
Any two people can have a different perspective on things.

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3. Do you agree that a person who is inching up on 60 might have a different perspective on things (including politics) than a person in their mid 20s?
Any two people can have a different perspective on things.

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My use of the word different does not infer any of the following - Better than, more mature than, older than, more experienced than, more superior than, more lofty than, more intelligent than,....
Look up the word infer, dumbass. When you use that as a basis to invalidate our stances, you are IMPLYING superiority.

Oriphiel 10-10-2017 02:18 PM

I'm sorry, Chula. I haven't yet unlocked the [Old Fart] skill tree, so your political genius is indecipherable to me.

OccultHawk 10-10-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881627)
Any two people can have a different perspective on things.



Any two people can have a different perspective on things.



Any two people can have a different perspective on things.



Look up the word infer, dumbass. When you use that as a basis to invalidate our stances, you are IMPLYING superiority.

Got 'em! I don't know why I love this **** so much.

Chula Vista 10-10-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1881622)
Why?

Foxes guarding the henhouse. Plain and simple. 250 years ago the founding fathers knew exactly what they were doing when they set up the system that's, for the most part, still in place today.

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Interesting choice of words. So you admit that in our current political system, candidates "need" to play ball with the rich and powerful, or else they can't accomplish anything, even if they theoretically have the support of the masses?
Of course. I'm not stupid. Reference the aforementioned foxes guarding the henhouses. I don't like it. But it is what it is and it ain't changing no matter how much groups like this think it can.

https://pix-media.priceonomics-media...68661117_n.jpg

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881625)
Donald Trump will never be president. This is simply the way that things work in the real world.

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Chula Vista 10-10-2017 02:28 PM

Frowny and Ori ignoring the substance and simply resorting to "old" cliches. Typical. Time to play guitar.

Frownland 10-10-2017 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881632)
Foxes guarding the henhouse. Plain and simple. 250 years ago the founding fathers knew exactly what they were doing when they set up the system that's, for the most part, still in place today.

And Washington would be right alongside me as I give the two-party system the finger. Can you point to the part of the Constitution that limits us to two parties? I thought so.

Oriphiel 10-10-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881632)
Foxes guarding the henhouse. Plain and simple. 250 years ago the founding fathers knew exactly what they were doing when they set up the system that's, for the most part, still in place today.



Of course. I'm not stupid. Reference the aforementioned foxes guarding the henhouses. I don't like it. But it is what it is and it ain't changing no matter how much groups like this think it can.

https://pix-media.priceonomics-media...68661117_n.jpg



http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2015/...n_dewey-E.jpeg



So you agree with me that the rich and the powerful control our current political system, and refuse to let it move away from bipartisanship, regardless of what the people want?

Oriphiel 10-10-2017 02:36 PM

Like, I don't even understand where the hell Chula is coming from anymore. In like five seconds he went from "The people have the power to change things! OBAMA ROCKS!" to "lol, our system is too tightly gripped by the rich and powerful to ever change, so deal with it." And yet I'm the one that gets called a lazy defeatist.

The Batlord 10-10-2017 03:00 PM

Pretty sure the Founding Fathers would be ashamed of you, Chula.

Trollheart 10-10-2017 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881625)
Donald Trump will never be president. This is simply the way that things work in the real world.

Ah ****! I KNEW we were living in the goddamn matrix!!! :banghead:
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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881626)
I know you are, but what am I?

I have 3 questions for you. Stay focused.


3. Do you agree that a person who is inching up on 60 might have a different perspective on things (including politics) than a person in their mid 20s?

Wow! Sixty inches! That must be hell to get inside your .... pants... :yikes:
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1881627)


Look up the word infer, dumbass. When you use that as a basis to invalidate our stances, you are IMPLYING superiority.

Yeah sorry but I was going to say the same thing. You can't infer to someone, they can only infer from what you imply.

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1881637)
Like, I don't even understand where the hell Chula is coming from anymore. In like five seconds he went from "The people have the power to change things! OBAMA ROCKS!" to "lol, our system is too tightly gripped by the rich and powerful to ever change, so deal with it." And yet I'm the one that gets called a lazy defeatist.

Have you lazy feet?

Chula Vista 10-10-2017 07:22 PM

So much for Sockeye Salmon. Thanks Greg Pruitt. Meets with the CEO of the mining company for 30 minutes and then, without consulting the EPA or the scientific community, overturns the EPA protection that was the result of years of study on the issue.

Mining CEO was just interviewed and came across as a total ass.

The Batlord 10-10-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881727)
So much for Sockeye Salmon. Thanks Greg Pruitt. Meets with the CEO of the mining company for 30 minutes and then, without consulting the EPA or the scientific community, overturns the EPA protection that was the result of years of study on the issue.

Mining CEO was just interviewed and came across as a total ass.

Why don't you sit down and have a talk with your corporate best buddies?

Chula Vista 10-10-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1881730)
Why don't you sit down and have a talk with your corporate best buddies?

WTF you on about? Drunk again?

OccultHawk 10-10-2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1881732)
I have an interest in helping people beyond my grand ideologies

so I will take neoliberal Obamacare over the Republican healthcare plan because it saves lives

it is not an all or nothing game

With the existential issues it is all or nothing. Global warming. WMD's. Depletion of forests and destruction of all bodies of water and the ecosystems they contain.

And honestly, as a person without health insurance, I don't give a **** about Obamacare because it doesn't help me at all. I want to go to the doctor for free. Anything else can **** off. I'm not paying ****. Not a cent. **** their rip off bull****. I'll die instead.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-10-2017 08:13 PM

dude free healthcare is the ****ing ****. i’ve been to the doctor like 4 times this month and 2 of the times he was like “nah, you’re good mate.” might go back tomorrow just for something to do.

sucks to be american, i guess.

OccultHawk 10-10-2017 08:27 PM

That's cool

Fight on

You don't strike me as anarchistic at all but that's cool

Do what you want and define yourself how you want

Frownland 10-10-2017 08:34 PM

Elphenor is an anarcho-fascist.

Trollheart 10-11-2017 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1881741)
With the existential issues it is all or nothing. Global warming. WMD's. Depletion of forests and destruction of all bodies of water and the ecosystems they contain.

And honestly, as a person without health insurance, I don't give a **** about Obamacare because it doesn't help me at all. I want to go to the doctor for free. Anything else can **** off. I'm not paying ****. Not a cent. **** their rip off bull****. I'll die instead.

That'll show 'em, huh? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1881742)
dude free healthcare is the ****ing ****. i’ve been to the doctor like 4 times this month and 2 of the times he was like “nah, you’re good mate.” might go back tomorrow just for something to do.

sucks to be american, i guess.

Man. If I have to go to the doctor (which thankfully I don't, much) I have to pay 50/60 Euro each time. I can claim it back on my private health insurance though, which costs me - at the moment, due to go to 139 Euro a year but I'm negotiating a better deal. Still expensive though.

OccultHawk 10-11-2017 05:29 AM

I don't want to show anyone anything. I'm just beat.

Chula Vista 10-11-2017 07:47 AM

My normal co-pay for regular visits including labwork is $20. I had to pay $300 (25% of the full cost) for my recent CT scan and $50 (again 25%) for my upcoming groin and rectal extravaganza.

In other news: Eminem got up on the wrong side of the bed yesterday. Here's the top 10 quotes from a freestyle rap he did last night.

1) 'A kamikaze that will probably cause a nuclear holocaust'

2) 'Trump, when it comes to giving a sh*t you're stingy as I am'

3) 'Racism's the only thing he's Fantastic 4 cause that's how he gets his rock off, he's orange'

4) 'Cause he cannot withstand the fact we're not afraid of Trump'

5) 'All these horrible tragedies and he's bored and would rather cause a Twitter storm'

6) 'Who's going to pay for his extravagant trips'

7) 'Same **** that he tormented Hillary for and he slandered then does it more'

8) 'This racist 94-year old grandpa'

9) 'To him, you're zero cause he don't like his war heroes captured'

10) 'F*ck that, this is for Colin, ball up a fist and keep that sh*t balled like Donald the bitch'

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-11-2017 07:57 AM

eminem still trying to cling to his bit of relevancy i see. if you make a song about Donald Trump in 2018 chances are you're either a money loving sellout looking for an easy target or... well, no. you're a money loving sellout looking for an easy target.


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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1881779)
Man. If I have to go to the doctor (which thankfully I don't, much) I have to pay 50/60 Euro each time. I can claim it back on my private health insurance though, which costs me - at the moment, due to go to 139 Euro a year but I'm negotiating a better deal. Still expensive though.

that's nuts. if you have a decent health insurance package through work here then everything in the field can be practically free. i'm still covered under my mother's which means any dental work or optometry (including braces, glasses, etc.) is reimbursed in full, alongside the usual free hospital trips. only thing i've had to pay for is prescriptions, and even those don't usually = more than $10.

i think it's something that a lot of people take for granted here, and most spend more time complaining about the wait time than they actually using it to their benefit. but it's certainly something i'm grateful for.

Cuthbert 10-11-2017 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1881794)
eminem still trying to cling to his bit of relevancy i see. if you make a song about Donald Trump in 2018 chances are you're either a money loving sellout looking for an easy target or... well, no. you're a money loving sellout looking for an easy target.

Agreed. Tired of people making a point out of not liking Trump.

Ooh, look at me and how much I hate Donald Trump (the racist!), I'm a good person!

No you're a boring cunt.

Frownland 10-11-2017 08:19 AM

I agree that it's become an outlet for hacks of all sorts, but it can be done well in comedy or art imo. Em was meh.

Psy-Fi 10-11-2017 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1881792)
In other news: Eminem got up on the wrong side of the bed yesterday. Here's the top 10 quotes from a freestyle rap he did last night.

1) 'A kamikaze that will probably cause a nuclear holocaust'

2) 'Trump, when it comes to giving a sh*t you're stingy as I am'

3) 'Racism's the only thing he's Fantastic 4 cause that's how he gets his rock off, he's orange'

4) 'Cause he cannot withstand the fact we're not afraid of Trump'

5) 'All these horrible tragedies and he's bored and would rather cause a Twitter storm'

6) 'Who's going to pay for his extravagant trips'

7) 'Same **** that he tormented Hillary for and he slandered then does it more'

8) 'This racist 94-year old grandpa'

9) 'To him, you're zero cause he don't like his war heroes captured'

10) 'F*ck that, this is for Colin, ball up a fist and keep that sh*t balled like Donald the bitch'

https://i.imgur.com/GNEeuXI.jpg

The Stinky Ass Hip Hop
By Reesesfeces
In the style of Eminem...

May I have your attention please?
I'm not afraid (I'm not afraid)
To make some money (to make some money)
Everybody (everybody)
Come take my dick (come take my dick)
We'll walk through The White House together, through the storm
Whatever weather, cold or warm

His balls are smelly, ass stinky, hands are small
There's food on his tux already, Mutha's milk
He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready to make some money,
But he keeps on forgetting what he wrote down,

And I am, President
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?
In the paper, the news everyday I am
Radio won't even play my jam
'Cause I am, President
If I wasn't, then why would I say I am?
In the paper, the news everyday I am
I don't know it's just the way I am

You better grab some pussy
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to make some money
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo
You better grab some pussy
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to make some money
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo

So lets go back
Follow the the money trail as we go on another episode
Journey with me as I take you through The White House
I once used to call home sweet home

Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the Trump Tower now

And when I'm gone, just make some money, don't mourn
Rejoice every time you hear the sound of my silence
Just know that I'm looking down on you laughing
And I didn't feel a thing, So baby don't feel no pain
Just grab some pussy

And when he's gone, just make some money, don't mourn
Rejoice every time you hear the sound of his silence
Just know that he's looking down on you laughing
And he didn't feel a thing, So baby don't feel no pain
Just grab some pussy in your tux.

https://i.imgur.com/DPyanb3.png

https://www.song-lyrics-generator.org.uk/

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 10-11-2017 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1881798)

lmao i tried this for the fun of it, best start to a song ever.

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Master of masturbating I'm pulling your cock
Twisting your bop-it and smashing your dignity

Chula Vista 10-11-2017 09:04 AM

Mistress of Fornication
By Black Mamba
A Metal Anthem

Faster than a train
Terrifying mark
Enraged and like a fein
She's half woman and half shark

Mistress of fornication I'm pulling your chain
Twisting your legs and smashing your heart
Blinded by me, you can't see the strain
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you laugh
Mistress
Mistress
Just call my name, 'cause I'll hear you laugh
Mistress
Mistress

69 is the number of the shark.

A sexy legs nestled somewhere in time
A flirty ass - no warnings, no signs
Judgment day and the a pouty lips arrives
Eventually, they all commit crimes

The heart went SMACK, there was no use turning back
'Cause I just had to see, was a shark watching me?
In the mist the legs twist
Was all this swell, or just some kind of hell?

69 is the number of the shark.

Is it the end, my friend?
Mistress you're going 'round the bend
Half woman and half shark
No, no, please, no
69 ... 69

:D

Plankton 10-11-2017 09:51 AM

Ode to Nancy Loo:

You look good in skin tight jeans
Let me touch your jelly beans


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