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The Batlord 10-18-2017 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1885367)
Is it that bad in Ameree-cay then?

I haven't been to a dentist since I was a small child. I honestly don't even know how I still have all my teeth in my head and I kind of doubt that I still will when I'm 40. I'm legit thinking of asking for a dental visit for Christmas no lie and the sheer fact that I can even ask for that is kind of a miracle for one such as I.

OccultHawk 10-18-2017 05:42 PM

The reward is getting the dental work done.

I wish I lived somewhere where I could claim I'm on the free dental care system and then if I get caught would still only have to pay $200. That sounds like fucking Fantasyland.

I know you get all huffy about cheating the system. But you don't have to worry about me and Bat. That option ain't open. When I was in my 20's you could go to the dentist and then skip out on the bill, which I did back then, but those days are long gone.

The Batlord 10-18-2017 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885373)
The reward is getting the dental work done.

I wish I lived somewhere where I could claim I'm on the free dental care system and then if I get caught would still only have to pay $200. That sounds like fucking Fantasyland.

I know you get all huffy about cheating the system. But you don't have to worry about me and Bat. That option ain't open. When I was in my 20's you could go to the dentist and then skip out on the bill, which I did back then, but those days are long gone.

Seriously, medical care should be universal, cause not dying of whatever should not be the benefit of the wealthy, and dental care probably should too, cause having a missing tooth basically turns you into someone who can only get hired by Burger King anyway. Dental care unless you are militant about your teeth can legitimately be a barrier between lower and middle class. I mean it's not as important as actual medical care, but it's still pretty ****ing important.

And regardless of your position on that I will gladly **** over the government so that I have my teeth. **** every one of your laws I want my teeth.

OccultHawk 10-18-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1885369)
I haven't been to a dentist since I was a small child. I honestly don't even know how I still have all my teeth in my head and I kind of doubt that I still will when I'm 40. I'm legit thinking of asking for a dental visit for Christmas no lie and the sheer fact that I can even ask for that is kind of a miracle for one such as I.

Honestly man, unless you can afford a **** ton of follow up work I wouldn't let them start poking around up there. Just brush and floss and use listerine everyday. You go and they're just going to find a bunch of **** you can't afford to fix, it'll get all in your head... you're better off just keeping your head in the sand. You go and I guarantee they're going to tell you you need 2-3 grand worth of this and that. Then what're you gonna do. Nothing but get paranoid about it when you smoke too much weed.

The Batlord 10-18-2017 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885376)
Honestly man, unless you can afford a **** ton of follow up work I wouldn't let them start poking around up there. Just brush and floss and use listerine everyday. You go and they're just going to find a bunch of **** you can't afford to fix, it'll get all in your head... you're better off just keeping your head in the sand. You go and I guarantee they're going to tell you you need 2-3 grand worth of this and that. Then what're you gonna do. Nothing but get paranoid about it when you smoke too much weed.

If I can get a couple fillings then I can live basically. It's better than nothing cause the way I'm going with my ****ty habits I'm just biding time till a root canal even if I brush and floss twice a day for the rest of my life. The damage is done and I can feel the pain in some of my teeth at 31. If I can stave off that then I'll be a psychopath with brushing and flossing with all those dentist horror stories, but I legit think I won't keep at least two of my teeth without a couple fillings at the very least. I suspect that they're just going to be written off. I hate to be a leech on my family but in this instance I just want to keep my ****ing god damn teeth.

OccultHawk 10-18-2017 05:57 PM

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And regardless of your position on that I will gladly **** over the government so that I have my teeth. **** every one of your laws I want my teeth.
Word

The only way we're ever going to get this **** changed is if we're willing to get violent. One of my friends knocked some teeth out falling down drunk. She had dental insurance. Still, her out of pocket was ten grand. Ten grand. That's a life wrecker.

OccultHawk 10-18-2017 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1885378)
If I can get a couple fillings then I can live basically. It's better than nothing cause the way I'm going with my ****ty habits I'm just biding time till a root canal even if I brush and floss twice a day for the rest of my life. The damage is done and I can feel the pain in some of my teeth at 31. If I can stave off that then I'll be a psychopath with brushing and flossing with all those dentist horror stories, but I legit think I won't keep at least two of my teeth without a couple fillings at the very least. I suspect that they're just going to be written off. I hate to be a leech on my family but in this instance I just want to keep my ****ing god damn teeth.

Good luck, bro. No sarcasm either. I mean it.

The Batlord 10-18-2017 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885380)
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The only way we're ever going to get this **** changed is if we're willing to get violent. One of my friends knocked some teeth out falling down drunk. She had dental insurance. Still, her out of pocket was ten grand. Ten grand. That's a life wrecker.

Holy ****. Just to put teeth in your head? I get that ****'s expensive and dentists are highly trained, but ten grand should pay for the highest quality fake teeth in your entire head and new eyes as well. That's ****ing criminal.

The Batlord 10-18-2017 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885381)
Good luck, bro. No sarcasm either. I mean it.

Like I said, I hate trying to be a leech, but god damn I want to keep my teeth. If I can be a leech **** about one thing, it's my teeth. I don't want to be white trash walking around with a gap toothed grin that will keep me perpetually in garbage employment even if I one day actually work my way up to a middle class job. And what chick wants a dude with a black hole where a tooth was unless she has her own cringe face?

But I guess the middle/upper class deserve to have actual teeth?

OccultHawk 10-18-2017 06:16 PM

A single root canal will cost $2000. You go in for the check up and cleaning. They start with a mandatory x-ray thing that's $100 not covered. Then they need a follow up to ($300) look at some ****. Then the dentist says he can't do it but his oral surgeon buddy can. Another $300 just for him to tell you it's $900 for the root canal. Plus, you probably got a couple fillings along the way and if you need a crown goodbye to another $1000.

The Batlord 10-18-2017 06:24 PM

Hey, I got some well off grandparents. Even if they tell me to **** off I can still ask. Won't make my teeth any worse. At least it's a couple molars that aren't doing so well I guess. If it was an incisor I'd cry like a bitch.

Cuthbert 10-18-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885386)
A single root canal will cost $2000. You go in for the check up and cleaning. They start with a mandatory x-ray thing that's $100 not covered. Then they need a follow up to ($300) look at some ****. Then the dentist says he can't do it but his oral surgeon buddy can. Another $300 just for him to tell you it's $900 for the root canal. Plus, you probably got a couple fillings along the way and if you need a crown goodbye to another $1000.

Disgusting tbh.

I feel sorry for Americans when I read stuff like that.

OccultHawk 10-18-2017 06:27 PM

I still say it's better not to let them start poking around in there unless you can see it through but that's just me.

OccultHawk 10-18-2017 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1885394)
Disgusting tbh.

I feel sorry for Americans when I read stuff like that.

We act like pussies so we get ****ed.

The Batlord 10-18-2017 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1885394)
Disgusting tbh.

I feel sorry for Americans when I read stuff like that.

Yeah seriously it's the fact that most people who aren't at least middle class ever have to go in for dental exams until they tie their tooth to a doorknob and still don't go to the dentist that it's not a thing that people care about. I guess the middle class simply don't think that a simple missing tooth can be a significant divider between class. Or they enjoy it. Not sure when I stopped thinking of myself as middle class tbh but apparently it happened when I wasn't paying attention.

OccultHawk 10-18-2017 06:30 PM

You're totally correct that bad teeth means no job.

The Batlord 10-18-2017 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885404)
You're totally correct that bad teeth means no job.

I mean it's not even necessarily a lower vs. middle class thing. I'm sure the lower class looks at lower class people with missing teeth and puts them in a class even lower than them. I know I do. Missing teeth people are basically the scum of America and will never do anything but flip burgers or fix cars if they're lucky.

OccultHawk 10-19-2017 06:49 AM

Atlanta mother accused of fatally burning two kids in oven | Daily Mail Online

Hotlanta!

Frownland 10-19-2017 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885639)

And here I thought that Southern mothers were great cooks.

The Batlord 10-19-2017 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1885661)
And here I thought that Southern mothers were great cooks.

I'll bet Albert Fish would give her two thumbs up.

OccultHawk 10-19-2017 08:15 AM

That's not fair. For all you know those kids could've been delicious.

Frownland 10-19-2017 08:20 AM

There's a difference between burning and charring.

OccultHawk 10-19-2017 08:23 AM

Well I think it's a real shame that her boyfriend doesn't appreciate a home cooked meal.

The Batlord 10-19-2017 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1885669)
There's a difference between burning and charring.

That reporter sounds like a whiny libtard tbh who wouldn't know fine dining if it walked up and nutted on his face.

OccultHawk 10-19-2017 08:35 AM

Bat, I think I would probably laugh myself into a stroke if we got stoned and watched the news together.

Oriphiel 10-19-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885676)
Bat, I think I would probably laugh myself into a stroke if we got stoned and watched Highlander together.

Ftfy

The Batlord 10-19-2017 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885676)
Bat, I think I would probably laugh myself into a stroke if we got stoned and watched the news together.

I think you would too.

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1885679)
Ftfy

Never forget Melvin the Magnificent.

Oriphiel 10-19-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1885681)
Never forget Melvin the Magnificent.

:laughing:

Trollheart 10-19-2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885376)
Honestly man, unless you can afford a **** ton of follow up work I wouldn't let them start poking around up there. Just brush and floss and use listerine everyday. You go and they're just going to find a bunch of **** you can't afford to fix, it'll get all in your head... you're better off just keeping your head in the sand. You go and I guarantee they're going to tell you you need 2-3 grand worth of this and that. Then what're you gonna do. Nothing but get paranoid about it when you smoke too much weed.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885380)
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The only way we're ever going to get this **** changed is if we're willing to get violent. One of my friends knocked some teeth out falling down drunk. She had dental insurance. Still, her out of pocket was ten grand. Ten grand. That's a life wrecker.

Jesus ****ing Christ! Here we either get fillings free but have to pay for extractions, or the other way round, can't remember. But even then an extraction would not be more than say 100 Euro. And nobody is going to start giving you the full overhaul unless you really need it. Caps, bridges, root canals? **** that. Only if you need it. And then your medical insurance should cover most of it. Ten ****ing grand for dental work? Unbelievable.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1885639)

Brings to mind that old joke: I love children, but I couldn't eat a whole one! :laughing:

The Batlord 10-19-2017 03:34 PM

I honestly don't think I even know anyone but my family members who actually have dental insurance. It's one of those hard dividing lines between lower and middle class.

Cuthbert 10-19-2017 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1885777)
Jesus ****ing Christ! Here we either get fillings free but have to pay for extractions, or the other way round, can't remember. But even then an extraction would not be more than say 100 Euro. And nobody is going to start giving you the full overhaul unless you really need it. Caps, bridges, root canals? **** that. Only if you need it. And then your medical insurance should cover most of it. Ten ****ing grand for dental work? Unbelievable.

Brings to mind that old joke: I love children, but I couldn't eat a whole one! :laughing:

lol extractions will be free and fillings will be what you pay for.

Trollheart 10-19-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1885811)
I honestly don't think I even know anyone but my family members who actually have dental insurance. It's one of those hard dividing lines between lower and middle class.

It's not dental insurance, it's just overall health insurance. Costs me about 130 Euro a month.
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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1885852)
lol extractions will be free and fillings will be what you pay for.

Knew it was one or the other. :laughing:

The Batlord 10-19-2017 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1885867)
It's not dental insurance, it's just overall health insurance. Costs me about 130 Euro a month.

Medical doesn't cover dental over here afaik. At the very least I don't think your average medical insurance does.

Trollheart 10-19-2017 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1885868)
Medical doesn't cover dental over here afaik. At the very least I don't think your average medical insurance does.

Ireland's does. Shrug. Dental, Opthalmic, hospital stays, surgery, after-care, the whole biz. Maybe I should appreciate it more and moan about the cost less.

(Yeah. Like that's going to happen!)

Cuthbert 10-19-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1885867)
It's not dental insurance, it's just overall health insurance. Costs me about 130 Euro a month.

Knew it was one or the other. :laughing:

Yeah I would think that depending on what sort then the extraction would be free as they don't use materials. If it's a surgical extraction you'd obviously be paying. I can't think of a reason why you'd get fillings free but be charged for say, a simple extraction.

Trollheart 10-19-2017 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1885872)
Yeah I would think that depending on what sort then the extraction would be free as they don't use materials. If it's a surgical extraction you'd obviously be paying. I can't think of a reason why you'd get fillings free but be charged for say, a simple extraction.

Probably to help you keep your teeth?

Cuthbert 10-19-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1885873)
Probably to help you keep your teeth?

Well that's what they're there for, just thinking that if one is going to be free though then it won't be the filling. Or maybe it is the filling if it's a metal one and not a white one.

Maybe you can find out and report back lol.

Psy-Fi 10-19-2017 07:42 PM

Neo-Nazi renounces white supremacist past — and comes out as Jewish and gay

Trollheart 10-19-2017 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1885935)

Batty? :laughing:

The Batlord 10-19-2017 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 1885935)

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But Wilshaw is by no means offering an olive branch to his former comrades of the extremist far-right. In fact, he appears to want to teach them all a lesson.

“I want to do some damage to the people who are propagating this kind of rubbish,” he said. “I want to hurt them, I want to show what it’s like to actually live a lie and be on the receiving end of this sort of propaganda. I want to actually hurt them.”
He was so close to becoming a better person.


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