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Old 08-04-2019, 01:44 PM   #18621 (permalink)
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well yeah I'm concerned about climate change as potential dead end for us

It's not like I rule out human Extinction. Like I said before I believe it we ever engineer true AGI it will likely render us obsolete and we might go extinct from that as well.

Ant said they won't want to compete with us but I tend to think Intelligence probably means autonomy which means they will have their own interests in what to do with the reasources around them and thus are more likely to possibly render us extinct not necessarily intentionally but rather as a byproduct of their own dominance over the environment which we used to control. The same way we drive species extinct today.
Adjusted Gross Income, you say?

Any kind of repercussion like you describe would more likely come from poorly designed AI than advanced systems, even if that poor design is in the AI programming the AI. I think we can have enough oversight and separation of function between AI systems to ward off any threat coming directly from AI. There are a lot of obvious threats with AI's misuse that push the human extinction question to the backburner.

At the end of the day we can just have a human decide to flip the switch so that human extinction has the dignity of being self-induced.



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Human population bottlenecked to under 20,000 under 100,000 years ago.
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Old 08-04-2019, 02:40 PM   #18622 (permalink)
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rhetoric-video

Beto keeping it 100.
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Old 08-04-2019, 04:17 PM   #18623 (permalink)
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:47 PM   #18624 (permalink)
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Adjusted Gross Income, you say?

Any kind of repercussion like you describe would more likely come from poorly designed AI than advanced systems, even if that poor design is in the AI programming the AI. I think we can have enough oversight and separation of function between AI systems to ward off any threat coming directly from AI. There are a lot of obvious threats with AI's misuse that push the human extinction question to the backburner.

At the end of the day we can just have a human decide to flip the switch so that human extinction has the dignity of being self-induced.





Exactly.
I think it's typical human arrogance to think you can design something smarter than yourself and then consign it to slavery
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:05 PM   #18625 (permalink)
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I think it's typical human arrogance to think you can design something smarter than yourself and then consign it to slavery
"Smarter" and "intelligence" are misnomers.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:18 PM   #18626 (permalink)
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No, the parameters for what AGI means are pretty clear.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:25 PM   #18627 (permalink)
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:32 PM   #18628 (permalink)
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Why? give me some reasoning besides stating it as fact.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:35 PM   #18629 (permalink)
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Why? give me some reasoning besides stating it as fact.
https://futurism.com/1-evergreen-mak...earning-and-ai

It's like assigning sexiness to your computer monitor for showing you Pornhub videos.
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https://futurism.com/1-evergreen-mak...earning-and-ai

It's like assigning sexiness to your computer monitor for showing you Pornhub videos.
please answer in your own words

I'm scanning through the article and it's talking about AI in general, the kind of basic machine learning algorithms that currently exist
, Which aren't remotely close to actual AGI.

AGI stands for artificial general intelligence and in a nutshell means building AI that is capable of cognition comparable to human beings. So how will it be based in human intelligence, match or exceed us in terms of thought, yet lack basic autonomy/self determination?

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