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Old 11-09-2019, 11:49 AM   #19621 (permalink)
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Because bribery and extortion have many elements in common, it is easy to misconstrue one as the other, but important not to. Both are criminal offenses and both involve the exchange of money, property, or services, but the manner in which the exchange occurs and the parties involved often vary depending upon the nature of the crime. A charge of extortion, for instance, need not involve public officials to be made, whereas bribery as a criminal offense involves those employed by the Government, mostly, along with certain clear provisions for cases of bribery in business.
A government official ate a Twix this morning and gave half of it to another government official. Bribery, clear as day.

He was threatening to withhold money that was already going to be sent to Ukraine, the money wasn't something that Trump introduced as a gift for his actions. Dishonestly read into definitions all you like but that's a very distinct element that differentiates bribery from extortion. An argument for treason could be made though.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:52 AM   #19622 (permalink)
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Extortion sounds just as nasty as bribery to me but I didn’t write da c-untstahtooshun
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:53 AM   #19623 (permalink)
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:54 AM   #19624 (permalink)
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Bolton the guy with the gay pride mustache?
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:58 AM   #19625 (permalink)
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Me trolling is right in line with real Murica and we don’t care what that boogie nights wannabe loser seyz

For real that’s the problem. No ****s given.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:00 PM   #19626 (permalink)
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it doesn't matter cause it doesn't even have to be an actual crime

It can be a simple abuse of power
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:04 PM   #19627 (permalink)
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Me trolling is right in line with real Murica and we don’t care what that boogie nights wannabe loser seyz

For real that’s the problem. No ****s given.
Murica LOVES reality TV. That's how Trump got the gig.
And this upcoming show isn't shackled to a single network.

Live on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, HLN, CBSN, ......

And then all of the juicy highlights shown repeatedly on all of the same networks. Over and over again, getting seared into the minds of dullards everywhere.

This is going to be better than if Honey Boo Boo was named CEO of Duck Dynasty.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:06 PM   #19628 (permalink)
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It can be a simple abuse of power
The GOP, "Ukraine eventually got the money and Trump didn't get the dirt"
defense petered out pretty fast. Even JJ had trouble with that one.
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Old 11-09-2019, 05:31 PM   #19629 (permalink)
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Foreign aid always comes with a catch I’d imagine

That’s what that one guy said in the press conference basically
^ I think a lot depends on the aid and the catch: Trump was holding back cash that had already been allocated by Congress (= American people), the delay increased risk to US national security and the catch was to benefit not the US, but Trump's political chances. Trump was sticking his dirty paws in when he should've just passed the money across that oval office desk of his. If Trump was a bank teller and acted the way he did, he'd be out the same day.
Plus that whole "Any country can interfere in US elections " bit.

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^ Yep, times two.
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