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Old 07-21-2019, 09:18 PM   #19621 (permalink)
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How come some other people seem to be making it work well enough to eek out a reasonable existence?
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:24 PM   #19622 (permalink)
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How come some other people seem to be making it work well enough to eek out a reasonable existence?
Because they’re exploiting people who are like me and batlord except gullible enough to actually try it. That’s the nature of capitalism. Why do I call it capitalism? It’s on private property. How do I know that? It’s in America.
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:26 PM   #19623 (permalink)
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Well that's an honest ****ing answer bruh

But you need to take on a little adversity instead of shying away from it imo. You've just been stuck in the same place so long you're complacent. It's 100 times more fulfilling in the long run to try something out, fail, and learn some **** in the process than it is to stay stagnate.
That's the entirety of the human ****ing race. I'm not trying to pick on you but you work **** jobs and have been a drug addict who accomplished nothing over your life, right (more or less the same for me just to be fair)? This idea that you do something fulfilling with your life by striving and fighting isn't a useful idea whereby to drive the moral trajectory of humanity and you of all people are not fit to decide that this should be.

Again, I'm not trying to pick on you but I've known many people like you in this mindset and I think it's more about the potential (generally masculine) ego you'd gain if you actually do manage to succeed in the current system than it is any workable potential system that functions in the real world. At the end of the day it's just a means for the already powerful to convince the weak to buy a lottery ticket and hope they win.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:29 PM   #19624 (permalink)
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@ OH

So you're saying what... Someone at the top of benefitting from the workers? Based on nothing, I presume.

What is stopping you and a bunch of like minded individuals from starting a commune where you share the wealth? Specifically what would get in your way and how, if you had let's say 50 people you knew and trusted who all held the same convictions as you?
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:35 PM   #19625 (permalink)
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just reread what I already wrote
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:39 PM   #19626 (permalink)
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That's the entirety of the human ****ing race. I'm not trying to pick on you but you work **** jobs and have been a drug addict who accomplished nothing over your life, right (more or less the same for me just to be fair)? This idea that you do something fulfilling with your life by striving and fighting isn't a useful idea whereby to drive the moral trajectory of humanity and you of all people are not fit to decide that this should be.

Again, I'm not trying to pick on you but I've known many people like you in this mindset and I think it's more about the potential (generally masculine) ego you'd gain if you actually do manage to succeed in the current system than it is any workable potential system that functions in the real world. At the end of the day it's just a means for the already powerful to convince the weak to buy a lottery ticket and hope they win.
Yes well I was in part speaking from experience. Cause I've had the same tendency to fall into complacency.

You can say I've accomplished nothing so my opinion is meaningless. All I know is that I was living on the street a year or two ago and now I'm not. I was addicted to drugs and now I'm not. I stopped being complacent with certain aspects of my life and started making incremental improvements.

Am I all good to go now? Nah, lol. I owe the state thousands. Truth be told, I don't even know there's not a warrant for my arrest in certain counties. You think you're telling me something when you say **** gets overwhelming? Please.

Bottom line is I feel better now that I've started to move in the right direction. I stayed complacent for years, letting my life spiral out of control.

Tldr if you don't have any goals then you have nothing to live for.
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:50 PM   #19628 (permalink)
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You can say I've accomplished nothing so my opinion is meaningless.
That is exactly not what I'm ****ing saying and I think that you interpreting it that way is exactly what I'm saying. You interpret accomplishments as social ammo to decide what is and what is not but I am saying that your lack of accomplishments is evidence that the current order does not necessarily reflect how you should go about accomplishing anything because you have not accomplished anything under it. The current order is not acting in accordance with how you operate as a person and you defending the current order shows that you are subverting your own interpretation of yourself to side with current stereotypes of how a person should operate because it is easy and safe to side with those stereotypes rather than doing the hard work of considering how those stereotypes should be redefined.
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You’re still in early recovery. Addictions are lifelong afflictions.
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:06 PM   #19630 (permalink)
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Man, I wrote you a nice heart felt essay and you respond to one sentence?

You're full of ****, first of all. I interpreted you correctly. You brought up that I was homeless and on drugs and that " you if all people aren't worthy to decide" that you can do something worth while by trying. I'm not offended, just cut the ****. That's exactly what you said.

And you say I should recognize that cause my life is ****ed it's the system that ****ed me and that I shouldn't be "defending" it by trying to offer some hopeful advice.. Maybe me and you are different but I can't really say I can defend the choices I've made in life. So I can't yet rule out that making better ones might not make my life better.

I think you're abstracting this all to Oblivion to avoid the uncomfortable fact that you may just have some power to improve your life but are either too lazy, too brainwashed or too cowardly to do so.
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