The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[GuD]

^so much with that. and dashboard cams. The police need to be policed, too.

[Lord Larehip]

Originally Posted by Soulflower

What makes ya'll think that black people don't think black on black crime is an issue? This has ALWAYS been an issue that has been brought up.

But where are the people rioting in the streets over it? That's my point. Sure, it concerns them--it had better. But it does not outrage them the way the Michael Brown thing did and that much is undeniable. And I want to know--where is the outrage??

[John Wilkes Booth]

Originally Posted by WhateverDude

Just gonna butt in here- have you ever been stalked by someone? Had a weapon pointed at you? Not saying Martin was aware of Zimmerman's being armed but he could have been, or would've been right/streetwise to assume he was. Either way- being stalked like that is a terrifying feeling. Once you call them there's not a whole lot the cops are gonna be able to do if the person/people after you actually do have violent intentions. Think about it. Who's gonna get to you first (if the cops even show up)?

to answer your question, yes. i am white and lived in ****ty neighborhoods almost my entire life. and you can say it's racist or whatever but i have black friends who admit to my face that if they didn't know me and they saw me walking down the street they might jump me just on the assumption that cause i'm white i might have money or an iphone or something like that. and where i grew up was mostly in south florida so really i know exactly how these kinds of situations unfold. the best thing to do usually is to mind your own until someone makes it impossible for you do to so, at which point you probably want to call the police if you can but either way at that point you have a right to defend yourself. but someone stalking you just isn't enough to give you that right legally. they have to basically start a physical altercation with you or at the very least verbally communicate a threat of violence to you.

[GuD]

The circumstances are wildly different. Black on black crime isn't the same as white figures of authority getting away with killing young black males.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i didn't say we've fixed it yet but turning random examples into a media campaign does nothing but make a few people rich really, as well as deepen the divide between the different races cause everybody goes into tribal mode.

Ferguson has had a racial division for YEARS.

It is one of the most racist locations in America.

I personally don't think these two situations have been exploited.

I think the media attention has brought attention to a problem.

Racism very much still exists and the law enforcement in this country is still not fair for certain populations/cultures.

[John Wilkes Booth]

fair point, i was referring more to the zimmerman case tbh.

[John Wilkes Booth]

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

to answer your question, yes. i am white and lived in ****ty neighborhoods almost my entire life. and you can say it's racist or whatever but i have black friends who admit to my face that if they didn't know me and they saw me walking down the street they might jump me just on the assumption that cause i'm white i might have money or an iphone or something like that. and where i grew up was mostly in south florida so really i know exactly how these kinds of situations unfold. the best thing to do usually is to mind your own until someone makes it impossible for you do to so, at which point you probably want to call the police if you can but either way at that point you have a right to defend yourself. but someone stalking you just isn't enough to give you that right legally. they have to basically start a physical altercation with you or at the very least verbally communicate a threat of violence to you.

to expand on this, if trayvon had a legal gun on him and a carry permit he still couldn't just turn around and shoot zimmerman for stalking him. but if zimmerman came up and attacked him then he could.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

But where are the people rioting in the streets over it? That's my point. Sure, it concerns them--it had better. But it does not outrage them the way the Michael Brown thing did and that much is undeniable. And I want to know--where is the outrage??

How do you know they are not outrage?

I am a African American and black on black crime is an issue that is very much talked about in my community.

It is also an issue that should be addressed.

I have never denied that.

However, I think that issue is rooted in a lot of classicism and the socioeconomic unprivileged that plagues certain communities due to poverty.

[Zhanteimi]

Being poor doesn't equate to being bad. There's no correlation there. Some of the best people who have ever lived on this earth were poor. Being bad has to do with choosing to be bad. Poverty is just an excuse. (And, yes, I grew up very poor white trash but chose not to go down the road of juvenile delinquency that many of my black and white friends chose.)

[John Wilkes Booth]

being poor gives people a pretty good incentive to be bad though.