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Old 12-26-2019, 12:45 PM   #19901 (permalink)
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FTR i mostly agree with you that porn and social media are really ****ing with human interaction in a negative way, i just dont like all the other **** youre adding on to that position. People escaping to watch vanilla porn seems to be just as ****ed up for sexual health as the “bad” stuff.
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Old 12-26-2019, 12:47 PM   #19902 (permalink)
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so if he started a consentual relationship with your mom that wouldn't disturb you?
Not if i didnt have to see it. I dont wanna see my mom in any kind of sexual way and im still scarred from waking up at night to my parents leaving the damn door open omw to the bathroom. You keep trying to push howd youd feel about the situation on me but i really dont think id care all that much. I dont much give a **** what other people do if its not harmful to others. I have better things to worry about than whos ****ing who in a world of billions.

Im also okay with people ****ing in public like every other animal we see and get a good laugh about. Thoughts?
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Old 12-26-2019, 12:51 PM   #19903 (permalink)
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You insinuated that they're more or less identical by asking how they can be any different, but I don't expect you to see through your own bad faith arguments anymore, it's cool.
that's not how I meant it though i now see where the misunderstanding comes from and I apologize for suggesting bad faith on your part.

I meant that the algorithms don't have the users best interests in mind in both cases. Which is essentially at the core of the problems that they introduce.

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but how does that relate to the woman showing her ankle? What was the argument that was made back then that was the same as my argument? I believe I know where you're going but I want you to spell it out for me.
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Old 12-26-2019, 12:55 PM   #19904 (permalink)
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Not if i didnt have to see it. I dont wanna see my mom in any kind of sexual way and im still scarred from waking up at night to my parents leaving the damn door open omw to the bathroom. You keep trying to push howd youd feel about the situation on me but i really dont think id care all that much. I dont much give a **** what other people do if its not harmful to others. I have better things to worry about than whos ****ing who in a world of billions.

Im also okay with people ****ing in public like every other animal we see and get a good laugh about. Thoughts?
Not trying to push anything, just wanted to see if you really meant it. But yea. We definitely differ there.

Anyone else cool with their siblings hooking up with their parents? Maybe I really am out of touch.
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Old 12-26-2019, 12:58 PM   #19905 (permalink)
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I dont think youre out of touch. I dont think thats a normal feeling many would share with me.
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Old 12-26-2019, 01:00 PM   #19906 (permalink)
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Nah, grooming is whack.

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I meant that the algorithms don't have the users best interests in mind in both cases.
This can have unintended consequences, but just because it doesn't have people's best interest in mind doesn't mean that it's inherently negative. Bread isn't healthy but it's not poison or some other analogous **** that only about 70% applies to this discussion.

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but how does that relate to the woman showing her ankle? What was the argument that was made back then that was the same as my argument? I believe I know where you're going but I want you to spell it out for me.
That my hyperbolic example of ankle photos were evil, would destroy sexuality/society, and that they would lead to depravity. Proposing what you find creepy to be the one logical ideal of what creepiness is when other members say they don't have issue with the roleplaying has that ole time religion feel to it too.
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Old 12-26-2019, 01:11 PM   #19907 (permalink)
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This can have unintended consequences, but just because it doesn't have people's best interest in mind doesn't mean that it's inherently negative. Bread isn't healthy but it's not poison or some other analogous **** that only about 70% applies to this discussion.
OK fair point. It doesn't have to affect you negatively but it can. I worded it wing. I should have said there's a precedent for the idea that technology can actually impact the psychology of the user. Because at the beginning I was getting pushback to that idea based on the notion that porn only reflects human sexuality. I'm saying it impacts it and shapes it too.. and I'm not always comfortable with the direction(s) it's headed.



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That my hyperbolic example of ankle photos were evil, would destroy sexuality/society, and that they would lead to depravity. Proposing what you find creepy to be the one logical ideal of what creepiness is when other members say they don't have issue with the roleplaying has that ole time religion feel to it too.
So maybe the argument might go something like first she's showing her ankle, then her calf, then her thigh. Then the whole shebang. That's the slippery slope argument a nutshell. But that's basically what's been happening for some time now so i don't understand why people still don't believe in the slippery slope.
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Because its not whats being shown that the problem? Its the escape from reality of real human sexual interaction.
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Because its not whats being shown that the problem? Its the escape from reality of real human sexual interaction.
the two are completely intermingled

Detached from any feed back from a partner you are much more free to explore
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o maybe the argument might go something like first she's showing her ankle, then her calf, then her thigh. Then the whole shebang. That's the slippery slope argument a nutshell. But that's basically what's been happening for some time now so i don't understand why people still don't believe in the slippery slope.
You've reached the same conclusions using the same reasoning, but this is different from typical Christian moral outrage because you believe that you're correct?
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