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Old 12-26-2019, 07:54 PM   #20021 (permalink)
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You're asking to be walked through every baby step of logic to any counterargument (criticisms of the justifications for your larger stance and correlations that you draw, just to refresh your memory) presented until the original subject at hand is no longer relevant. You waste your own time dude.
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Old 12-26-2019, 07:59 PM   #20022 (permalink)
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You're asking to be walked through every baby step of logic to any counterargument (criticisms of the justifications for your larger stance and correlations that you draw on) presented until the original subject at hand is no longer relevant. You waste your own time dude.
you're saying I haven't been consistent in what I said above as being my position and rather than provide an example you said for me to go back and re read the entire convo.

Basically my position is if you won't even offer up a single example to demonstrate your point then I'm calling bs rather than taking on the burden of re reading through the entire convo myself. You're the one making a claim. So back it up.
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Old 12-26-2019, 08:01 PM   #20023 (permalink)
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Case in point.
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Old 12-26-2019, 08:02 PM   #20024 (permalink)
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Once that takes place it’s a capitalistic exchange.

It's easy to imagine the end of the world but so hard to imagine post-capitalism but if there’s to be any hope we need to become post-currency.
But I mean that could take place in a feudalistic or a Roman republican society. It's not specifically about capitalism, it's about power dynamics. Capitalism just turns those power dynamics into a game.
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Old 12-26-2019, 08:03 PM   #20025 (permalink)
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Old 12-26-2019, 08:04 PM   #20026 (permalink)
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But I mean that could take place in a feudalistic or a Roman republican society. It's not specifically about capitalism, it's about power dynamics. Capitalism just turns those power dynamics into a game.
I’m not sure if I have a useful definition of capitalism in my head anymore.
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Old 12-26-2019, 08:06 PM   #20027 (permalink)
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It's the 1%!!!!

And the Jews.
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Old 12-26-2019, 08:17 PM   #20028 (permalink)
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OH and elph and probably Batlord think working is exploitation and the government should just function and give you everything.. engaging with them when they bring it up is more of a waste of time than entertaining me at work.

Also, he's still known as Frownland.
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Old 12-26-2019, 08:26 PM   #20029 (permalink)
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OH and elph and probably Batlord think working is exploitation and the government should just function and give you everything.. engaging with them when they bring it up is more of a waste of time than entertaining me at work.

Also, he's still known as Frownland.
pragmatically speaking most employers will **** you right in the ass

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Old 12-26-2019, 08:31 PM   #20030 (permalink)
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I’m not sure if I have a useful definition of capitalism in my head anymore.
Money is power, capitalism is when hard social distinctions for who should hold money and power become nebulous and undefined but the people who previously held money and power made the rules and created the conditions for who now holds the money and power, and now simulcra confuses the **** out of you and makes reality something impossible to define.

There is no easy answer to any of this, but just know that any current definition of money and power exists to ease the confusion of people who will never understand the nature of the society they rule.
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