I mean I agree with some of what they say but I'm not a Mormon. I think the underwear is stupid.

You were spouting cheap psychobabble gobbledygook you got from your psychologist that was making you sound like a conservative.

I think you're underselling how much your interpretation plays here. Just because you make the conclusion that I'm a republican does not make me one.

I feel like I'm being forced to defend something right-wing I said with little knowledge as to what that is. Nothing thus far has convinced me that I've done so. The closest I can think of was saying that Ted Cruz obviously offers something to the electorate that keeps getting him re-elected and simply casting off that said electorate as a bunch of idiots wasn't exactly a fair conclusion. Not that that something would force me to vote for him either because if there's a right-wing politician that falls on my ****list Cruz is definitely up there.

Other than that, what gives?

Is this really how I sound to you? Even though I've given legitimate examples of real policies I favor that are in stark opposition to them? I sent that post twice now but it seems like all you took from it was the pot smoking thing, something you originally brought up.

**** like this makes me wonder if this was all a troll and I'm an idiot for even participating in it. I'm thinking it was.

It's cool man. I don't think that you're a conservative. Nobody wants to be a conservative amiright?

I've never even smelled a serious post here before. Follow your nose....follow your heart.

No I wasn't. I've said these types of things prior to seeing my therapist. Things about how if you quit trying and blame the responsibility for your own happiness or life on others rather than taking charge you're probably not going to get better. That's not a conservative view. That's not political in any way. It's similar to the Republican "pull yourself up by the boot straps" attitude that doesn't want to admit that some people are born with more opportunity than others, but it's not quite the same.

Can't tell if you're being legit or you're insulting me through the 4th dimension, but if you're cool I'm cool.

Ooooooooooooooooooh yes yes you were and yes yes that's when you started.

Actually no.

I started when I first joined in a discussion with Chula and he pegged me the same way.

Then I also shared my own independent thoughts on accountability that wasn't fed to me by my therapist, it was actually a diatribe I went on with my therapist because a lot of what bothers me about the people I've surrounded myself with is the lack of accountability people want to take as they end up trying to shove it on others. Such as, my dad being an abusive piece of **** and never taking responsibility for it by admitting it and getting help. Instead he'd blame it on his job, my mom or on us.

Edit: It's just more proof that you guys like to jump to conclusions based on little things.

They like to pounce on statements that come off as defensive. If I were Anthony Fantano I'd give that strat a light five out of 10 for reliability. Which puts it about halfway to To Pimp A Butterfly.

Defensiveness is not a sign of something at all. People just genuinely don't like being identified as something they don't identify themselves as.

There's a whole gender pronoun issue going on over that fact.

You get the occasional open borders libertarian.

You mean an actual libertarian?

Yeah I was gonna say most libertarians are pro open borders. That's not really a rare occurrence.

Yep, actualibertarianism.

This is just going to what Elph was saying about most 'libertarians' being re-branded conservatives.

Most people I've met that consider themselves libertarians are pro-border control. Most people I know are also poorly educated.

Fair enough.

I think that the 20 pages of arguing has deflated me quite a bit. I'm gonna hang it up for tonight.

You'll be back.

You can be pro-immigration and not support illegal immigration at the same time.

The libertarian platform supports the least amount of immigration laws as possible if not an open border policy.

I think its pretty silly to have a specific stance on immigration. The policy should be based around the countrys capacity to support the population.

A great explanation of the problem with that right here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFvG4RpwJI

Screw all the political stuff. NOW I'm offended.

It's funny how Frown and Batty are often and rightfully pointing out all the "both sides" issues, but once someone else does that, they go full libtard on their sorry asses. Sad. And mostly really ****ing tedious.

He doesn't point out both sides. He points at liberals.

Sad!

No, and thats something we need to work on. I also dont think if you manage to make it here from a **** situation you should be thrown out or treated like an animal. I was thinking more from a border security perspective I guess.

So there's a big fire up in Butte County. Was at 5,000 acres yesterday, was at 20K last night, and is now up to 70,000 acres and 2,000 structures burned. Five people reported dead, all burnt to death trapped in their vehicles trying to evacuate. They didnt know that the traffic jam ahead of them was so thick people started abandoning their cars before the fire caught up to them.

:(:(:(

Dude I was picking up the kindergartner yesterday (schools are all closed here today due to air quality) and I swear all these babies have PTSD. I heard one of them say "Mommy, is our new house going to burn down too?"

Another fire already? Shouldn't fire season be over?

This is a scary world for a baby.

10 years of drought and increasing summer temps make for a lot of dead trees and dry brush. It's only going to get worse.

Would I be a terrible person if I made a Taco Bell joke?

Maybe so considering taco bell was one of the structures lost RIP

Shouldn't have had the fire sauce.

Is this the camp fire that burned down Paradise?
(sounds like a country song)

How you gonna do ori like that