Are you more interested in hush money payments and PR moves than war crimes?

Not when the guy telling me he's committed those crimes did what I just described. Cohen has a history of taking multiple actions that personally benefit him, often at the expense and ignorance of his clients. It also clashes with what the Democrats pushed as their narrative, AKA "the man who was perfectly loyal to Trump for years and never strayed the course". None of this came up at all in the testimony from either side even though it is a critical point of consideration for his culpability/capabilities as a reliable witness.

I don't equate financial crimes with war crimes but I'm also not trying to paint Cohen is a positive light here either. Ants post just confused me. Just came off as diversion tactics.

I'm just saying that the dude has some pretty damning evidence and that a spade should be called a spade.

It’s an old fight that both sides have accepted will remain contested. I don’t see it spilling out of Kashmir. Pakistan is entirely in the wrong, btw.

I'm still confused as to why Cohen would publicly turn on his client and publicly destroy any ability he has to have any other client trust him. Like, maybe Cohen is screwed and has legit dirt on his client that he can leverage, cause otherwise I don't see what he stands to gain from this.

Lighter sentence, right?

Everybody squeals when faced with the slamma.

But if he has nothing to squeal with then he has no leverage for a lighter sentence.

^ what he said.

Nope. Sometimes its safer to do the time.

PG&E likely started the Camp Fire and expects a $10.5B impact to its bottom line, it tells regulators

No ****ing justice. The board of directors need to be on death row right now.

Can you explain why you feel this way?

Death row is a little less barbaric than a public execution.

Was it negligence, cover-up, arson — I don’t anything about other than there was a big fire. This is the first I heard about a power company.

Yes. Well the first two basically point to arson since the negligence was informed by profit, it's not like anyone's running around with a gas can and a match but they might as well have been.

Not to mention that the billions that the company is "losing" will not be directly paid for by them and is far less than what they would "lose" had they not filed for bankruptcy.

Luke Perry had what they’re calling a massive stroke.

90210 <3

Are we sure it isn't Bryan Cranston? I mean this can not be Luke Perry now.

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/v....w330.h330.jpg

^ Yep, this is the significant take-away from Cohen's public hearing: a lot of circumstantial detail suggesting that Trump was filing false financial information, that he knew about the wikileaks dump and the Don-plus-Russians meeting in advance. Also Cohen presented signed checks that are tantamount to proof that Trump is guilty of campaign finance violations.
Previously, Cohen lied to Congress to protect his boss but the circs are different now and for Cohen to be lying again would be a huge risk for himself with no obvious benefit, so I personally found his testimony pretty convincing.

In true MB style, which means zooming in on an insignificant detail, did anyone else hear Chairman Cummings say, "I recognise myself" ? I liked that so much that I might start using it to give my posts a bit more authority.

That's some avant-garde reasoning. I don't really consider the validity of his statements tbh but he 1000% has the air of someone who would do anything to cover their ass as well as someone who's dumb enough to lie about things that they don't have to lie about.

^ "Avant-garde reasoning" :laughing: That's very polite of you. Thanks.

Yes, for years Cohen has been a devious lying bully so his recent penitant performance should be viewed with scepticism. None the less, having survived as Trump's fixer for a decade suggests that he is anything but dumb, and with the example of Manafort before him, he must be aware of the grave perils of lying to Congress. I'm sure he was doing a fair amount of ass-covering, but at various points in his testimony he suggested names of people who might corroborate what he was saying. Rather than branding Cohen with the childish,"Liar Liar Pants on Fire", which is what the GOP tried to do before Cohen even opened his mouth, I hope the committee will adopt an approach of cautiously assessing the content of his testimony item by item: perhaps true/perhaps not/ worth investigating.

It would have been fun to be on the GOP side grilling him. I would have pushed hard on the activities he committed for personal gain without telling Trump as a testament to his lack of loyalty toward clients he was supposed to serve, like taking money from AT&T and the Saudis as a "White House consultant" but then...not doing any actual consulting. He also ran all those social media campaigns on other people's money for personal benefit. Nobody "directed" him to do those things.

Instead these wingnuts took a "but he's a liar111" route which doesn't impress anyone if you can't get specific. On the plus side though, the pointless squabbling appears to have caused Cohen to commit perjury at least twice (when he was asked about the fraudulent statements he made to get bank loans for his own personal real estate deals and also the whole White House job thing).

It'll be interesting to see what some of these other people he named bring to the table. Assuming we get to hear all of them before Trump gets re-elected lol.

Not guilty!

Dont try and justify what you do to peoples food.

You act like I give people poison but it's just iffy.

Birmingham school stops LGBT lessons after parents protest

Sad.

https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek...s183-SUSv1.pdf

Symbolism is for losers.

"Man angry his photo was used to prove all hipsters look alike — then learns it wasn't him"

:laughing:

:thumb:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/uk-por...e-14091429.amp

Get your wanks in now, everyone.

The rest of the internet goes MB. Great. Wu Tang is for the children.

Dude in Missouri dying from stage 4 pancreatic cancer and these ignorant redneck pigs insist on searching through his stuff because someone said it smells like weed.

but they smelled marijuana! Serve and protect amirite?

For me at least, this news item is hard to believe: the internet is 30 years old! There's already a whole generation who don't know what pre-internet life was like:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47524474

To mark the occasion, inventor Sir Tim Berners-Lee sent an open warning about what he sees as a downward spiral:-

As Sir Tim doesn't call out MusicBanter specifically, I think we can all sigh with relief: thanks to good modding, we have dodged a bullet!!

Christchurch mosques targeted in mass shooting

Mosque shootings in NZ.

Reports of 49 people killed.

A sickening terrorist attack.

It was live streamed on Facebook

Oh Jesus how horrible. The shooters liversreamed it? That's utterly reprehensible