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The Batlord 06-07-2019 05:25 PM

Edit: FUCK!

Anteater 06-07-2019 08:27 PM

Trump actually pulled it off. Could this be the fabled Art Of The Deal in action? :p:


CBS - Trump tweets a trade deal has been signed with Mexico to avoid tariffs

The Batlord 06-07-2019 08:32 PM

Even the article uses migrants, illegal immigrants, and asylum seekers interchangeably.

OccultHawk 06-08-2019 08:39 AM

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-f...ughter-suicide

lol @ trying to blame the Uber driver

The Batlord 06-08-2019 09:31 AM

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A Florida family is considering legal action against Uber after the company allegedly allowed their 12-year-old daughter to get in a car alone and be driven to a parking garage in Orlando, where she jumped to her death.
I guess Florida Girl can't fly.

Anteater 06-08-2019 04:18 PM

Slate - Boston “Straight Pride” Parade Names Alt-Right Gay Provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos as Marshal

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The Batlord 06-08-2019 04:24 PM

I think Boston hatemongers need to get out of the stone age. It's not 2016 anymore.

OccultHawk 06-08-2019 04:25 PM

I like Milo

Just sayin

Anteater 06-08-2019 05:56 PM

I'm honestly still surprised that the U.S. hasn't made El Chapo pay for the wall yet. He's got the cash n' all.

Neapolitan 06-08-2019 06:28 PM

^ftfy

You got Milo Yiannopoulos and Mr. Miyagi mixed up.

Anteater 06-08-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2060241)
^ftfy

You got Milo Yiannopoulos and Mr. Miyagi mixed up.

Mr. Miyagi is my spirit animal so I just had to include him.

OccultHawk 06-08-2019 09:05 PM



Bad look for Medusa Blondie.

Lucem Ferre 06-08-2019 11:03 PM

I thought Mr. Miyagi was supposed to be wise.

BTW Asians aren't animals.

Bedlam Ballroom 06-08-2019 11:21 PM

"Straight pride"... I see.

OccultHawk 06-09-2019 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2060256)
I thought Mr. Miyagi was supposed to be wise.

BTW Asians aren't animals.

Are they plants, fungi, microbial, alien, or other?

OccultHawk 06-09-2019 07:01 AM

Vox Headline:

Extremely Blonde and Disturbingly Young: The Anatomy of a Leonardo DiCaprio Relationship

She’s 21. Legal adult. 3 years past the age of consent.

Ftr, 8 is disturbingly young. Not 21. 21 is completely normal and she has the right to **** old movie stars or any other adult she wants to ****. It’s only disturbing to puritanical bigots.

Anteater 06-09-2019 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2060256)
I thought Mr. Miyagi was supposed to be wise.

BTW Asians aren't animals.

I don't think you have to be a magical Asian karate master to realize that, no, Asians aren't literally animals my broheim.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2060273)
Vox Headline:

Extremely Blonde and Disturbingly Young: The Anatomy of a Leonardo DiCaprio Relationship

She’s 21. Legal adult. 3 years past the age of consent.

Ftr, 8 is disturbingly young. Not 21. 21 is completely normal and she has the right to **** old movie stars or any other adult she wants to ****. It’s only disturbing to puritanical bigots.

I saw that **** as a Vice story on a friend's FB feed. When did all these normally journalistic-oriented outlets suddenly go full TMZ?

Cuthbert 06-09-2019 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2060255)


Bad look for Medusa Blondie.

Such lovely people aren't they?

"Nazi" and "fascist" lol, strong words that have just completely lost their impact due to overuse by cowards who cannot back it up.

Psy-Fi 06-09-2019 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 2060276)
Such lovely people aren't they?

"Nazi" and "fascist" lol, strong words that have just completely lost their impact due to overuse by cowards who cannot back it up.

They were overused and abused even before any of us here were born. You can probably also add "racist" to the list at this point in time.

George Orwell: What is Fascism?

Frownland 06-09-2019 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 2060276)
Such lovely people aren't they?

"Nazi" and "fascist" lol, strong words that have just completely lost their impact due to overuse by cowards who cannot back it up.

I bet you didn't ask them. Would you like a quick rundown?

Cuthbert 06-09-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2060279)
I bet you didn't ask them. Would you like a quick rundown?

It's just standard procedure, shout fascist/racist/Nazi and beat chest in victory because you're a good guy apparently. But yes go for it explain to me how the guy who got milkshaked is a Nazi.

Frownland 06-09-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 2060283)
It's just standard procedure, shout fascist/racist/Nazi and beat chest in victory because you're a good guy apparently. But yes go for it explain to me how the guy who got milkshaked is a Nazi.

Trump supporters are generally fascist because they support the authoritarian expansion of the executive office, subscribe to nationalism to the point where you think they're compensating for something, and demonize opposing views. This obviously goes for many other Americans, but it stands out with Trump supporters because of their immigration stances being driven by white paranoia over losing majority in America.

The claim that overusing a word takes away its meaning is bull****. If you're genuinely losing your understanding of fascism because someone is using the term in a way that you don't agree with, then that's on you.

OccultHawk 06-09-2019 08:46 AM

Not just fascist though, that woman was screaming “Nazi” in his face.

Cuthbert 06-09-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2060285)
Trump supporters are generally fascist because they support the authoritarian expansion of the executive office, subscribe to nationalism to the point where you think they're compensating for something, and demonize opposing views. This obviously goes for many other Americans, but it stands out with Trump supporters because of their immigration stances being driven by white paranoia over losing majority in America.

The claim that overusing a word takes away its meaning is bull****. If you're genuinely losing your understanding of fascism because someone is using the term in a way that you don't agree with, then that's on you.

That doesn't explain how the guy in the video is a Nazi.

Frownland 06-09-2019 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 2060287)
That doesn't explain how the guy in the video is a Nazi.

That's because Nazism is a specific movement of fascism and you're already so confused with this terminology, so I only went into the fascist element.

Cuthbert 06-09-2019 08:56 AM

No argument provided. Third time lucky?

Frownland 06-09-2019 08:58 AM

Did my explanation of how Trump supporters are fascists not suffice?

Cuthbert 06-09-2019 09:02 AM

"Trump supporters are generally fascists" isn't an explanation of how that man who got milkshaked is a Nazi.

Frownland 06-09-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 2060291)
"Trump supporters are generally fascists" isn't an explanation of how that man who got milkshaked is a Nazi.

That's because, as I've already mentioned, Nazism is a specific form of fascism. I was responding to this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 2060276)
"fascist" lol


Cuthbert 06-09-2019 09:10 AM

Well respond to the other bit after watching the video then.

Frownland 06-09-2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 2060293)
Well respond to the other bit after watching the video then.

You want me to argue that the Trump supporter is a member of a defunct German political party?

Lucem Ferre 06-09-2019 09:28 AM

Nazi isn't supposed to be taken literal. It's more of a comparative thing that Frown already spelled out. The fascism, bigotry and propaganda of Trump and his supporters is supposedly on par with the Nazi party according to the assaulter. I don't get where you're getting lost on this. That you disagree and think it's hyperbole? Yeah. Probably. But hyperbole hasn't taken the meaning of these words.

Anteater 06-09-2019 09:45 AM

I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people. It's a form of ad hominem. No different than when right-wing people label anyone left of center as an SJW for standing up for minorities.

So these protestors acting unhinged, throwing **** at people, busting public property like ANTIFA tend to do in Portland and other areas, etc....it doesn't paint a picture that they're actually fighting fascism. Rather, it comes off like a violent projection of some kind when I don't see the guys in MAGA hats committing those same kinds of actions at that event on video.

Frownland 06-09-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2060297)
I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people.

I support Hitler, but don't be mad at me, I'm just a regular guy living my life.

OccultHawk 06-09-2019 10:02 AM

Just my guess but I suspect that that woman who was so swept up into her group that she started screaming NAZI in that dude’s face would have been just as enthusiastic to express her hatred for Jews if she had lived in Nazi Germany. I don’t know her personally but from that clip I doubt she’s contemplative enough to really think for herself. And if that old guy had been dragged off and thrown in the oven she’d be grinning ear to ear. She even goes racial at the end saying she doesn’t need to listen to another “white male”

A certain race shouldn’t be heard... hmmm...Where have I heard that before?

OccultHawk 06-09-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2060298)
I support Hitler, but don't be mad at me, I'm just a regular guy living my life.

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Exo 06-09-2019 10:09 AM

After watching Chernobyl, I came to the realization that pretty much all "leaders" give zero sh*ts about what real problems are. They instead, focus on how decisions affect them. Trump has been a absolute monster in this case.

Move on to the next monster. I'm tired of this one.

Frownland 06-09-2019 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by occulthawk (Post 2060299)
just my guess but i suspect that that woman who was so swept up into her group that she started screaming nazi in that dude’s face would have been just as enthusiastic to express her hatred for jews if she had lived in nazi germany. I don’t know her personally but from that clip i doubt she’s contemplative enough to really think for herself. And if that old guy had been dragged off and thrown in the oven she’d be grinning ear to ear. She even goes racial at the end saying she doesn’t need to listen to another “white male”

a certain race shouldn’t be heard... Hmmm...where have i heard that before?

100%

The Batlord 06-09-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2060297)
I think the point others are trying to make here is that people are being called Nazis and fascists when they are likely just regular people living normal lives, working normal jobs, etc. and aren't actually doing anything racist or bad to people. It's a form of ad hominem. No different than when right-wing people label anyone left of center as an SJW for standing up for minorities.

So these protestors acting unhinged, throwing **** at people, busting public property like ANTIFA tend to do in Portland and other areas, etc....it doesn't paint a picture that they're actually fighting fascism. Rather, it comes off like a violent projection of some kind when I don't see the guys in MAGA hats committing those same kinds of actions at that event on video.

I think it's silly to call most Trump supporters fascists but they're still somewhere on the spectrum of people who end up supporting and enabling fascists. Most people who voted for Hitler probably weren't imagining Auschwitz when they cast their ballot.

Anteater 06-09-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2060308)
I think it's silly to call most Trump supporters fascists but they're still somewhere on the spectrum of people who end up supporting and enabling fascists. Most people who voted for Hitler probably weren't imagining Auschwitz when they cast their ballot.

You pretty much enable fascism every time you spend your money at Wall-Mart, the supermarket or the gas station though. At least according to some of the standards I see being espoused 'round here.


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