He likes to swing his bat from both sides of the plate. :baseball:

Makes sense.

OH isn't cool enough to be gay.

He only ****s old men and young girls, the complete opposite of me.

I'd say yea cause each time a president overreaches their power it sets a precedent for the ones to follow.

Bush followed Clinton. Obama followed Bush. Trump followed Obama. And the trend was for the present to become more and more powerful.

The current precedents being set by Trump tend to trend towards the path to become a corrupt athuoritarian mafia state like Russia

are we just gonna conclude the guy is literally untouchable then? That he can literally shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it.


man I was saying the same boy cried wolf shut during the election when the scandals were dissing John McCain and Muslims. Now it's clear as day extortion. With 1 of the Juliani associates who were arrested flipping on Juliani. Will Juliani fall on his sword for trump? Who knows. This **** is unpredictable. But I'd tend to think not. With him waving his phone around on TV and reminding people he was working under orders from the white house.

It's definitely significant but I just get bored of breathless declarations of every development being the nail in the coffin for Trump's presidency and following.

That said I don't think that the government is going to set that precedent for holding itself accountable for its actions, it's too risky for all those involved.

My money is on Mulvaney flipping. He's in a MAJOR hot seat right now.

You're still new to this side of the fence so give it time.

I get bored of it too.... I just think the way things have been since the last election are so polarized it's hard to spot what is going to be an actual scandal... But that doesn't mean there are none

not really... I jumped ship within his first year out of sheer annoyance at having to defend every dumb thing he said to DJchameleon, who I would argue with on Skype. I was really only ever in it for the excitement of the campaign. Once he became prez I quickly grew bored of him.

calling this a scandal is like calling an alcoholic drinking alone a party

at least to my ears

What qualifies as a scandal to your ears

Hey don't say that... :(

I'd call the go back to your country hullabulloo a pretty qualified scandal.

nah that was just political fodder..

I think a scandal would involve getting caught in a crime or unethical(for the president) situation

Which is what Trump has done

Video footage of Trump sucking Pence’s ding dong after Pence just went balls deep in Ivanka’s anus with Melania filming and yelling “World Star!”

So you're even gatekeeping scandals now huh.

Yawn.

I mean that's sorta the definition.

I thought it was when the typical person’s balls tingle.

It's not the definitive definition and you know it

The Constitution only lists two specific high crimes for a president in regard to the office.

Treason and Bribery.

This is bribery clear as day.

Ukraine, if you want the US $400 mil of aid, go on national TV and say "Corruption" and "Biden". Toss in "Clinton" and "DNC" for bonus points.

Has the House subpoenaed Trump yet?

Pretty sure that legally it would be considered extortion, not bribery.

Ya learn something new every day.

Foreign aid always comes with a catch I’d imagine

That’s what that one guy said in the press conference basically

Like when trump said Putin isn’t the only killer and it was like gasp except since it’s true the gasps were a little more like sighs

Oh **** Chula quoted something Frown damn

Very true.

This 'catch' went too far.
Which is why Bolton referred to it as a drug deal.

Did you read the statement Bolton's lawyer put out yesterday?
Bullets are being sweat.

yea you're right I was only trying to keep the bar high cause OH said the whole exortion deal with Ukraine isn't a scandal, so you bringing up something that was less of a scandal caused me to dismiss its scandalousness. Although I must insist that the Ukraine scandal makes your scandal look like a 2 bit whore on Hollywood Blvd.

Bolton the guy with the gay pride mustache?

A government official ate a Twix this morning and gave half of it to another government official. Bribery, clear as day.

He was threatening to withhold money that was already going to be sent to Ukraine, the money wasn't something that Trump introduced as a gift for his actions. Dishonestly read into definitions all you like but that's a very distinct element that differentiates bribery from extortion. An argument for treason could be made though.

Extortion sounds just as nasty as bribery to me but I didn’t write da c-untstahtooshun

Pretty much.

Yes.

Me trolling is right in line with real Murica and we don’t care what that boogie nights wannabe loser seyz

For real that’s the problem. No ****s given.

it doesn't matter cause it doesn't even have to be an actual crime

It can be a simple abuse of power

Murica LOVES reality TV. That's how Trump got the gig.
And this upcoming show isn't shackled to a single network.

Live on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, HLN, CBSN, ......

And then all of the juicy highlights shown repeatedly on all of the same networks. Over and over again, getting seared into the minds of dullards everywhere.

This is going to be better than if Honey Boo Boo was named CEO of Duck Dynasty.

The GOP, "Ukraine eventually got the money and Trump didn't get the dirt"
defense petered out pretty fast. Even JJ had trouble with that one.

^ I think a lot depends on the aid and the catch: Trump was holding back cash that had already been allocated by Congress (= American people), the delay increased risk to US national security and the catch was to benefit not the US, but Trump's political chances. Trump was sticking his dirty paws in when he should've just passed the money across that oval office desk of his. If Trump was a bank teller and acted the way he did, he'd be out the same day.
Plus that whole "Any country can interfere in US elections " bit.

^ Yep, times two.