Wood, coal, oil have all, in their day, "revolutionised human civilization" haven't they?
I think it's time to move on to a cleaner energy source, and I don't think nuclear is a good option on account of nuclear waste and the possibility of disastrous accidents.

They are not without drawbacks, but surely wind, hydraulic, solar, geothermal and wave energy sources would be less damaging options? We already have the technology to exploit all of those energy sources, and might one day have new mix-and-match systems of supplying energy, depending on local geography.

Modern nuclear power systems reuse what would formerly be considered nuclear waste. The waste doesn't even reach the point of unusability for decades unless you shut down the systems and when it's unused, the ionizing radioactivity that makes it dangerous is almost entirely depleted. That waste still requires stowing away, which is usually done by encasing it in concrete and steel reinforced chambers to prevent the waste escaping in the event of a flood, earthquake, etc. The biggest issue with nuclear power is potential contamination from mining uranium, but this is mitigated by responsible mining practices and has not really had any real world examples of happening. Nobody seems to ever believe this next point, but modern nuclear engineering also abides by insanely rigorous safety protocols to prevent the failures of older systems that were used at places like Chernobyl and Fukushima. Don't believe everything that the hippies tell you, basically.

The renewables that you mention revolve around the usage of environmentally damaging fuel, just not drilled fossil fuel. Well-maintained nuclear power doesn't even get a blip on the radar as far as carbon emissions go. It took me a bit to come around myself but it looks like our best option until the next best thing is discovered.

Hmm, good point. Reminds me of that liberal climate change junk science.

Idk his position.

What makes you opposed to nuclear power?

Just like "actual clean energy".

I agree but we both know that's a pipe dream. I'd rather avoid further ****ing up the planet just to dig my heels in on capitalism, but you do you.

Radical restructure=eliminating our need to harness energy

Nobody proposing actual clean energy is trying to move away from using energy.

Apart from every hurricane, wildfire, and extreme weather pattern induced by atmospheric pollution? Probably a few turbine related deaths that would be pretty cheeky if they were on AFV.

Just a boring version of OH.

I already addressed that

Ok boomer

You always know when you're looking at a kid who never had a pet or a dinosaur phase.

This is so accurate. Trees are the best, Elph, you should reconsider them

Probably one of the best things to do while on drugs is just look at trees right at the beginning of spring when all the green is at its most vibrant. Preferably with a breeze to rustle the branches and make the leaves look like a green ocean. If you can't appreciate that then your artistic sensibilities are atrophied beyond repair.

Early mornings walking through a forest of redwoods with golden oblique lighting from the sunise while you're still in the afterglow of the acid that you took at midnight>>>>>>>

Trees have such a rich gorgeous structure, both in the way they branch out and the way the leaves form this waving beautifully textured green cloud. They are magical

trees are dope and sorry to flex on yall but mushrooms in the grand canyon >>>>>

That's because you're thinking of the human experience as something separate from nature when it's not. Isn't the meme that you don't even like art anyway

I think it says a lot about you that you can't look at anything unless it's a human's transformed version of it.

That's really ****ing boring and self-absorbed.

And humans and their thoughts are a relatively infinitesimal part of that. We just can't imagine all that we can't imagine so all that we can imagine gets an unfair amount of coverage. I think it's immensely unfair that I'll never get to see all the insane **** that will happen in the future, and I also think it's immensely unfair that I'll never get to see all the insane **** that happened before I was born. I mean if you told me that I'd get to see a Tyrannosaurus Rex but it would then eat me, there's a part of me that would find that hard to turn down. Sure it would be an unpleasant end but the reward might very well be more magic than I'd ever or would ever experience just in those few seconds.

Hmm, maybe if I got to see it eat something else first.

Being bored just means that you're boring.

Cuts both ways. The more I learn about my fellow man the more pedestrian they seem. But the highlights are still magic. And this is true for the universe in general. Including trees.

If that wasn't part of the deal I'd be pretty pissed. Like, magical dealing-making entity, can't you sweeten this a bit? At least the lawyer from Jurassic Park got to see the thing eat a goat. But even if I turned the deal down I'd always remember that I had the chance and didn't take it.

Generally speaking, two things can be interesting at the same time.

Aren't you like 5+ years too old for this philosophy 101 ****?

There's no way that your cheesy angst over the incredibly common experience of being burned in a toxic relationship is more interesting than aurora borealis.

You can probably find a Canadian escort who uses that name.

I think being unable to look beyond human experience to find interest is like being unable to look beyond your own race to find interest. Like your entire paradigm is just limited and bland.

As if bald ass apes are more interesting

It's not as different from being a regular ass ape as they make it out imo.

When you consider that they're not lizards but a descendant of reptiles that is related to birds then ****ing yes. The dynamic history of evolution is mindboggling.

But on a pure level, holy **** ****ing god they're an entire race of dragons of all shapes and sizes that were you able to see them irl would be among the most preposterous, amazing things it would be possible to see. I imagine that extinction events probably destroy the megafauna first and leave the smaller animals alive. Dinosaurs existed for well over a hundred million years and survived two extinction events before finally dying out. Then mammals evolved to holy **** **** levels before, what, one or two extinction level events happened that destroyed much of the biodiversity on the planet and we're kind of living in the early stages of the planet rebuilding our crazy ****ing megafauna? I suspect that if you gave the planet ten million years we'd have yet another set of animals that would put our current set to shame as far as being really ****ing cool.

Yes there ****ing are. Have you seen cheetahs and wolves and great white sharks? Imagining that my species is having such an experience with consciousness while they exist and that my species' history with consciousness is related to their evolution is a ****ing trip.

But hey the Clash exist now so clearly nothing else matters. Just like Metallica says.

I used to be a cheetah guy but now snow leopards are my jam

https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800/...nowleopard.jpg

Which ties into my larger point that nuclear power is currently our most environmentally viable source of energy that Germany is foolish for abandoning.

I like wolves I'd be a wolf

There are absolutely people who would fight you over saying this. I personally kind of want to take a shot at you for saying this. You simply have no imagination.

https://www.documentaryarea.tv/playe...=Dinosaur%2013

I don't know why are we exactly talking about cats but I go with the smaller ones, lynx or cougar. More specifically Iberian lynx and Florida panther.

This is a snowy one!

Tigers >>>>

Iberian Lynx begs to differ.

https://pictures-of-cats.org/wp-cont...7914279644.jpg

Yeah that's what I'm talking about!

1. No.
2. Empty space is crazy. Quantum fields and virtual particles rock this ****.

yeah you must just be reading the headlines and not the articles