Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2165508)

I'm on BK's team on this one. People really need to learn to listen to an explanation instead of grabbing pitchforks with their hands over their ears. BK is all like "No, see, we did this on purpose because kitchens are male dominated and we feel that women are great chefs and belong in the same rooms as males" and the public just says "NAHHH THAT SH*T SOUNDS BAD".

F*ck that. I'm pro BK here.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2165568)

Yeah I don't buy that it wasn't intentional. I'm gonna join Exo anyway in being pro BK on this one though.

Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2166006)

^lol

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2166057)

Is this a joke or just really lame racism?

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2166059)

^^ Do you still think "Spanish" is a race?

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2166059)

^^ Do you still think "Spanish" is a race?

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2166066)

I think British "Que?" jokes are pretty racist.

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2166074)

First of all, TH is Irish not British.

Second, you're mixing xenophobia and racism (most western European countries are increasingly multiracial).

Third, he only used a spanish name to identify it was a spanish person. There were no ethnic stereotypes. Just spanish people high on drugs and unable to identify the colour of their submarine.

:/

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2166096)

:laughing: The fuck you talking about bro? Don't transpose your State-side racism against Latinos to Europe. Spain is a first world, high income, highly educated country with a great quality of life, where many many Europeans would love to move to live (and many actually have, especially British and German). Most Europeans love Spain and everything to do with Spain and Spanish people have a general reputation of being the most friendly in Europe. Stop talking nonsense...:crazy:

Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166105)

Um no Northern Europe is discriminatory towards Southern Europe, including Spain. Also smh at implying people are racist towards other countries just because they're third world.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2166106)

Are we shocked that adidasss doesn't get racism?

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2166110)

That's adorable that you don't get that whiteness is a spectrum.

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2166107)

The height of "discrimination" of North against the South in Europe is that maybe some Northern Europeans are a little snooty and think they're better than everyone else (because they're richer I guess). I haven't heard of anyone actually disliking and discriminating against Southern Europeans in any serious way, and I especially can't imagine this being applied to Spain. Unless you have a different experience, in which case I'd be curious to know how this discrimination is exhibited.

On the other hand there are far more examples of Northern Europeans liking and enjoying the South (check out all the chartered flights to Spain and Italy).

Also, I do believe a lot of discrimination and prejudice stems from the wealth disparity. In the States, people are prejudiced against poor latinos, not so much for their skin colour but the fact that they're poor and trying to take their jobs. Same in Europe, discrimination of the West against the East isn't about skin colour, it's about rich vs. poor.



Urm, among people of the same race and similar culture (say, white Europeans, which is what we're talking about here), I think that's entirely possible?

But I have limited experience with Nothern Europe, maybe there are deep prejudices against Southern Europeans I'm not aware of. Again, not sure how this would be exhibited.

Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2166112)

There's a pretty common right wing idea in northern Europe that southern Europeans are lazy garlic eating people who leech off north European money in the EU.

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2166118)

Damn Croats are dumb. And here I thought you were one of the good ones!

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2166120)

We dumb and poor! And lazy, according to North Europe...:laughing:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2166118)

Damn Croats are dumb. And here I thought you were one of the good ones!

Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 2166116)

Ok, sure, and if you'd have formulated your original statement to say "some right wing Northern European nutters discriminate against Southern Europeans", I wouldn't have objected, otherwise it seemed you were saying most Northern Europeans discriminate against Southern Europeans or that such discrimination or attitude is widespread which I think isn't the case.



Sure, some people may travel to places whose inhabitants they dislike, but I would say most people travel to Southern Europe and especially Spain not just for the sunshine and the beaches but for the culture and the people.



Yup, absolutely aware of that. But our discussion is limited to West North vs. West South of Europe, which have very similar culture (in a global context), Christian, predominantly white etc. Your statement above basically confirms that the main reason for discrimination towards the South by the North is economic.

Same issue exists on a more regional basis, inside Spain, Italy, even Croatia, the developed north discriminates against and looks down on the less developed south.

But coming back to the original point, OH, who is Irish and not British, was not discriminating against the Spanish and this is not a common thing in Europe. In my opinion and personal experience. Certainly not anything comparable to the racism Latinos experience in the U.S., which I think is what Charles thinks is happening. Spaniards=/=Latinos.