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Old 01-02-2018, 06:14 PM   #9311 (permalink)
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It entails the federal government FORCING a citizen to perform labor AGAINST THEIR WILL AND AGAINST THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
Offering your services to the public is a demonstration of your will to complete that service.

As per religious beliefs: those are respected until they affect the rights of others. As previously established, abridging privileges is the same as denying rights, so if your religious beliefs get in the way of someone else's rights as discussed in this scenario, then you do not have the right to own a business. Separate is inherently unequal.

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Having gay sex is an action. The bakers don't condone it.
You don't have to have sex to be gay. New rule: no more false equivalencies. Guess we gotta end it here for you huh.
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:17 PM   #9312 (permalink)
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If it is a privately owned bakery, then yes, they have the right to discriminate [though, I would advise against it, as it is a stupid business practice]. If it is PUBLIC/GOVERNMENT funded, then it should cater to everyone.

but you already put qualifiers on this statement assuming you wouldn't hold the same stance if it were the only place you could get cakes
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if the "whole point" is that you could shop elsewhere

then where is there room for this "nobody is entitled to your labor" nonesense, basically
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No one is getting their point across, so let's just AGREE TO DISAGREE AND MOVE ON.
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if the "whole point" is that you could shop elsewhere

then where is there room for this "nobody is entitled to your labor" nonesense, basically
It's called FREE WILL.
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:23 PM   #9316 (permalink)
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No one is getting their point across, so let's just AGREE TO DISAGREE AND MOVE ON.
I get your point, I just disagree with it. Are you confused by mine? I'm doing my best to make it pretty clear.
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It's called FREE WILL.
Free will to murder someone woot woot. Wait hang on...maybe free will doesn't always take precedent.
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homosexuals without decorated pastries just ain't right goddammit
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Free will to murder someone woot woot. Wait hang on...maybe free will doesn't always take precedent.
Oh **** I just broke the new rule. Sorry.
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That violates the NAP
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