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Cuthbert 02-15-2018 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1926625)
Several different issues to discuss. Of course gun laws, but more importantly why the **** are we doing it? Cause you can't just blame guns. This is much more complicated than just guns.

No it's not? You need a gun to shoot somebody. Obviously you require someone willing to kill to fire the gun, but you are always going to have people in a country of millions who want to kill others so having firearms available is insane imo.

What does my head in with it all is not really the fact that the gun laws won't change, its how vehemently a lot of people oppose it, and seem genuinely offended by it.

OccultHawk 02-15-2018 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1926632)
No it's not? You need a gun to shoot somebody. Obviously you require someone willing to kill to fire the gun, but you are always going to have people in a country of millions who want to kill others so having firearms available is insane imo.

What does my head in with it all is not really the fact that the gun laws won't change, its how vehemently a lot of people oppose it, and seem genuinely offended by it.

I’ll take 20 killed by a shooter over one face permanently mangled in one of your crazy acid attacks. Assault rifles leave carnage, no doubt, but melting someone’s face with sulphuric acid is some serious next level ****.

Chula Vista 02-15-2018 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1926632)
What does my head in with it all is not really the fact that the gun laws won't change, its how vehemently a lot of people oppose it, and seem genuinely offended by it.

For a large portion of gun owners it's the fear of a slippery slope domino effect. They feel like even giving an inch to increased gun control will ultimately lead to the gubment taking away their guns. And they are extremely zealous about that fear.

And then you have folks like the NRA, Ted Nugent, Alex Jones, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and most of the talking heads over on Fox, stoking those fears on a daily basis.

(can't wait to hear Jone's latest False Flag theory...... )

And let's not forget that one of the biggest lobbies on Capital Hill is the NRA, which basically represents all of the major gun and ammunition manufacturers.

Chula Vista 02-15-2018 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1926635)
I’ll take 20 killed by a shooter over one face permanently mangled in one of your crazy acid attacks. Assault rifles leave carnage, no doubt, but melting someone’s face with sulphuric acid is some serious next level ****.

Go to Google Images and search for "Gunshot wounds head".

Cuthbert 02-15-2018 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1926635)
I’ll take 20 killed by a shooter over one face permanently mangled in one of your crazy acid attacks. Assault rifles leave carnage, no doubt, but melting someone’s face with sulphuric acid is some serious next level ****.

No.

Lucem Ferre 02-15-2018 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1926641)
No.

Yes the **** it is. Yeah, people that want to kill shouldn't have such easy access to killing machines, but most of these shootings seem to come from emotionally and mentally ill people.

Like, you totally over simplify **** by making it just a gun issue, and probably assume I'm pro guns just because I don't.

MicShazam 02-15-2018 01:18 AM

I read it was the 18th US school shooting of this year, and we're in mid February ffs! Of course, this one isn't going to change anything either. Why would it. USA loves guns more than children.

It's true what Lucem says; that it's not just a gun issue, but come on...

Cuthbert 02-15-2018 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1926643)
Yes the **** it is. Yeah, people that want to kill shouldn't have such easy access to killing machines, but most of these shootings seem to come from emotionally and mentally ill people.

Like, you totally over simplify **** by making it just a gun issue, and probably assume I'm pro guns just because I don't.

We have mentally ill people in the UK.

US gun murder rate is 90 times that of the UK.
We don't have 13k gun murders per year.

It's a gun issue.

Lucem Ferre 02-15-2018 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1926644)
I read it was the 18th school shooting of this year, and we're in mid February ffs! Of course, this one isn't going to change anything either. Why would it. USA loves guns more than children.

It's true what Lucem says; that it's not just a gun issue, but come on...

I don't even know where these people even get these guns to be honest. Like, if there is such strong gun violence in areas like Chicago that nobody ever talks about because I guess black people dying isn't an issue, and these people definitely are not buying guns legally, would gun laws truly prevent mentally ill white people from obtaining them? I mean, yeah, making it harder is sure to prevent so many of these events, but contrary to popular belief these things are typically planned. Now if a young Chicago kid can get access to automatic rifles illegally, who's stopping a determined James Holmes from doing the same thing? Or what happens when they just turn to bombs? Or they just start stabbing fools? Yeah, less death, but the problem still isn't solved.

OccultHawk 02-15-2018 01:35 AM

...acid attacks are like gunshots...on acid

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