Physical discipline against children .. okay or not?

Bloozcrooz · 02-02-2011, 04:06 AM

Lol..did you just ban that guy Tore?? Remind me to never piss you off.

Kirby · 02-02-2011, 04:19 AM

It's not like I huddled over him and beat the **** out of him.
I gave him a spanking and sent him to his room.

Has he hit the dog again?
No.
Is he afraid of me or does he feel ill will towards me?
No.

He hit the dog, so I felt it was necessary to hit him back. He didn't like it, so he figures the dog doesn't like it.

Guybrush · 02-02-2011, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirby

It's not like I huddled over him and beat the **** out of him.
I gave him a spanking and sent him to his room.

Has he hit the dog again?
No.
Is he afraid of me or does he feel ill will towards me?
No.

He hit the dog, so I felt it was necessary to hit him back. He didn't like it, so he figures the dog doesn't like it.

Earlier, I wrote this :

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Originally Posted by Tore

I would answer that question saying that it's never, at no point in time, okay for my father to slap me. When I have kids, I want to teach them that in our family, we don't slap or otherwise physically punish. I don't want that kind of behaviour to be a tool in our communicative toolbox. I hope that I will be able to instill in my kids a certainty, pride and self-assurance that tells them that if ever another grown-up lay hands on them, they will know that this adult is doing something which is not okay. And eventually as they grow up, I hope they would see in retrospect that I as a father treated them with love as well as the respect that I treat other adults with, even though they were kids.

I remember when I was a kid, we were visited by another family who were friends of my parents. I remember their boy did something which the parents didn't approve of. It was relatively trivial, but he got slapped for it and started crying. This happened at the dinner table and even though I was a kid, I remember I was shocked and horrified. It's never been okay with me and then as well as today, I'm thankful for my parents that they never did that to me.

If you were my brother and spanked my kids, then you'd be teaching them a lesson which I don't agree with; that it's okay for uncle to physically hurt his nephews. To me, it's not okay and I never want my kids to believe that it's okay and so, if you'd done that to my kids, it would've really chilled our imaginary family relationship.

TockTockTock · 02-02-2011, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty

Why is that pathetic? I'm surprised there weren't more "yes" votes. If the poll was still open I'm sure there would be.

The A.P.A. has already shown that discipline through other means other than harming your child is more effective in their psychological development. Now, I am not saying don't be strict on your children (because you DO need to set boundaries), but I do think that hurting your child is just stupid. It shows not only the parents' parenting skills but their intelligence as well.

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Originally Posted by xEMGx

I'm shockes people think it isn't okay to use the best and more effective method to discipline kids.

I find it ridiculous when 12 year old kids are disciplined and sent to their rooms with a laptop, Xbox, tv, phone, iPod, it's a ****ing dream world in there.

Not sure if your joking or not, but I'll go ahead and answer seriously. Nobody is talking about not disciplining a child. We're just talking about physical discipline (hitting, spanking, etc). If anything, those laptops and xboxes need to be confiscated (which is a great form of punishment).

**Janszoon** · 02-02-2011, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

lol it's funny that you say that....most people that are against physical discipline seem super sensitive and they have this idea stuck in their heads that physical discipline equals beating the **** out of your kid til they are bruising which is not true.

That's funny, reading this thread it seems like it's mostly the pro-physical discipline crowd that are super sensitive about the subject and have this idea stuck in their heads that no physical discipline means no discipline.

s_k · 02-02-2011, 06:17 AM

Guys this is going nowhere...
If it were up to me, I'd put a friggin' lock on this mess.

djchameleon · 02-02-2011, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by s_k

Guys this is going nowhere...
If it were up to me, I'd put a friggin' lock on this mess.

it's just a debate, debates usually go nowhere. People on each side of the topic have their own opinions and whip out facts to back up what they are saying and it just goes round and round but there is no harm in it as long as name calling doesn't start up.

So I disagree with your idea of this topic needed to be locked.

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That's funny, reading this thread it seems like it's mostly the pro-physical discipline crowd that are super sensitive about the subject and have this idea stuck in their heads that no physical discipline means no discipline

that might be true of some pro physical discipline people but not of me. I know and understand that I should talk to my kid so they at least know what they have done is wrong and why it's wrong. Instead of just spanking them for no reason to inflict pain as a way to show them it's wrong.

~~Dirty~~ · 02-02-2011, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

The A.P.A. has already shown that discipline through other means other than harming your child is more effective in their psychological development. Now, I am not saying don't be strict on your children (because you DO need to set boundaries), but I do think that hurting your child is just stupid. It shows not only the parents' parenting skills but their intelligence as well.

My parents are both smart people. But thanks for calling them stupid because they spanked me! I mean, they only raised two soon-to-be college grads who've hardly ever been in trouble and have always treated their parents with total respect. What morons!!!

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That's funny, reading this thread it seems like it's mostly the pro-physical discipline crowd that are super sensitive about the subject and have this idea stuck in their heads that no physical discipline means no discipline.

Eh, I think it's basically the anti-spanking crowd being shocked and outraged to a small degree, while the pro-spanking crowd is more trying to defend their choice and kinda thinking "WTF people are actually shocked by this??" I don't really get the "idea stuck in their heads that no physical discipline means no discipline" vibe at all. Maybe that's just how I have been thinking, I don't want to speak for everyone that is pro-physical discipline.

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Guys this is going nowhere...
If it were up to me, I'd put a friggin' lock on this mess.

Where did you think this was going, s_k? Did you want people's opinion to change on whether they should spank their kids? This thread is for discussing physical discipline on kids, and that's is exactly what is being talked about here. Not to go too off-topic too much, but I get so annoyed with people and their "lock this thread already" attitudes. Christ, it's a forum for talking about stuff and that's exactly what we are doing here.

s_k · 02-02-2011, 06:47 AM

No man. I'm just seeing the same stuff being said over and over again.
This not going to be working.

I was freaked out about the poll score too, by the way.
But I'm not going to join this discussion anymore. And I think no one should, as it's not going to get anyone anywhere

~~Dirty~~ · 02-02-2011, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by s_k

No man. I'm just seeing the same stuff being said over and over again.
This not going to be working.

I was freaked out about the poll score too, by the way.
But I'm not going to join this discussion anymore. And I think no one should, as it's not going to get anyone anywhere

Well who cares, the whole purpose is to talk about the topic and that's what's going on. Please leave the discussion, but there's no reason to stop everyone else's chance to talk about it just because you don't want to say anything. If this thread had been closed months ago, none of this lovely discussion would have ever happened after dj revived the thread a few days ago.

View Poll Results: Physical punishment aganist children. Acceptable or Unacceptable?
Acceptable	50	56.82%
Unacceptable	38	43.18%
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02-02-2011, 04:19 AM	#452 (permalink)
Kirby Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Forest Park, GA Posts: 1,637	It's not like I huddled over him and beat the **** out of him. I gave him a spanking and sent him to his room. Has he hit the dog again? No. Is he afraid of me or does he feel ill will towards me? No. He hit the dog, so I felt it was necessary to hit him back. He didn't like it, so he figures the dog doesn't like it. __________________ ::KirbyISAlmighty::

02-02-2011, 06:17 AM	#456 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	Guys this is going nowhere... If it were up to me, I'd put a friggin' lock on this mess. __________________ Click here to see my collection

02-02-2011, 06:47 AM	#459 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	No man. I'm just seeing the same stuff being said over and over again. This not going to be working. I was freaked out about the poll score too, by the way. But I'm not going to join this discussion anymore. And I think no one should, as it's not going to get anyone anywhere __________________ Click here to see my collection

02-02-2011, 04:06 AM	#451 (permalink)
Bloozcrooz Justifiable Idiocracy Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 1,244	Lol..did you just ban that guy Tore?? Remind me to never piss you off.