How Real Is Christianity?

sleepy jack · 06-18-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Whatsitoosit

I think too many people shy away from knowing the bible just because they want to feel they are unique, or nonconformist.

That's a bit silly. The most people I know who haven't read the Bible tend to be Christians.

Astronomer · 06-18-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

That's a bit silly. The most people I know who haven't read the Bible tend to be Christians.

Agreed. Whenever talking to Christians about the Bible I tend to find that they haven't read most of it, and I have.

Inuzuka Skysword · 06-19-2009, 06:29 AM

It is because they don't have their own worldview. They take what their parents give them and never make it theirs. Therefore their devotion to it is very small. They usually don't care about any other worldviews for that matter. Some don't even know what a worldview is.

Of course, I would argue that any faith cannot be "yours" simply because there is no real reason to pick religion.

Arya Stark · 06-19-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

It is because they don't have their own worldview. They take what their parents give them and never make it theirs. Therefore their devotion to it is very small. They usually don't care about any other worldviews for that matter. Some don't even know what a worldview is.

Of course, I would argue that any faith cannot be "yours" simply because there is no real reason to pick religion.

Who is "they?"

All Christians?

cavanherk · 06-19-2009, 09:05 AM

[QUOTE=pahuuuta;628737]Well, im probably going to guess most people on here are christians, and sorry to say that i'm not and the bible just doesnt give me enough faith to believe in god, im the kind of person that has to see it to believe it, whether or not that is a good or bad thing. anyway i was reading bits and pieces of the bible and it just has some flaws in it, lets list some shall we?

QUOTE]

You could watch the black & white movie "Inherit the Wind," I saw it on PBS recently and it makes a lot of good points, basically leaving it up to you and your perceptions, I think. It is great.

I pretty much sum it up like this: Religion is good, it bonds people and gives people hope, but religion is bad and is the cause for war and fear and self-trepidation.

There is a lot of power in a general understanding in the world's religions. It lets one observe and either agree or disagree, and take from the world's general beliefs and either agree or disagree and find a way of belief that makes you strive to be a good person.

If you're going to believe in something, make it something for YOU and don't worry about feeling like you need to believe, worship, or otherwise support any given religion.

TheCunningStunt · 06-19-2009, 09:15 AM

It's a nice fairytale.

Almost like a fable that you tell kids.

Just like the boy who cries wolf teaches kids not to lie.

Cristianty tells them not to be a cunt in life and they won't suffer in hell.

It's as simple as that for me anyway. God = unpaid babysitter.

cavanherk · 06-19-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

God = unpaid babysitter.

That is a great one-liner. I agree to a degree.

Whatsitoosit · 06-19-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack

That's a bit silly. The most people I know who haven't read the Bible tend to be Christians.

you're right, I should have said some people I know, including myself. Careless use of words on my part. As for Christians not knowing the bible perhaps they feel they don't have to? or they were just born into it and don't really care to? I've tried reading it, bores me to tears. Probably the wording, bible study is something I have an interest in just to understand what I'm reading.

Inuzuka Skysword · 06-19-2009, 11:08 AM

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Who is "they?"

All Christians?

The Christians who seem to have never read the Bible, or those who don't. Don't worry, I don't stereotype all the Christians together. When I was one I hated when people did that. Plus, it is plain stupid considering the diversity of them all. As an individualist it is sort of hypocritical of me to attack a collective, but all I am really doing is attacking the collective that adhere to the specific beliefs.

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It's a nice fairytale.

Almost like a fable that you tell kids.

Just like the boy who cries wolf teaches kids not to lie.

Cristianty tells them not to be a **** in life and they won't suffer in hell.

It's as simple as that for me anyway. God = unpaid babysitter.

You seem to me to be pretentious as hell. Have you ever even opened the Bible? Have you ever studied even one book of it?

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I've tried reading it, bores me to tears. Probably the wording, bible study is something I have an interest in just to understand what I'm reading.

The Bible is really only good if you study it book by book. If you try reading it like on complete linear story it really gets boring. I don't really like the narratives and such anyways. Psalms, Ecclesiastes, and those type of books are my personal favorites because they are less narrative and more in depth.

TheCunningStunt · 06-19-2009, 11:30 AM

I seem pretentious?

I seem more ignorant than anything else. But just because I simplify it doesn't mean pretention or ignorance.

Yes I've opened the bible.

I liked the story about the snake and the apple tree.

And the one about Samsun, who had strength in his hair.

Lovely fairytales.

06-19-2009, 06:29 AM	#653 (permalink)
Inuzuka Skysword Existential Egoist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,468	It is because they don't have their own worldview. They take what their parents give them and never make it theirs. Therefore their devotion to it is very small. They usually don't care about any other worldviews for that matter. Some don't even know what a worldview is. Of course, I would argue that any faith cannot be "yours" simply because there is no real reason to pick religion.

06-19-2009, 09:05 AM	#655 (permalink)
cavanherk barefoot troubadour Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 143	[QUOTE=pahuuuta;628737]Well, im probably going to guess most people on here are christians, and sorry to say that i'm not and the bible just doesnt give me enough faith to believe in god, im the kind of person that has to see it to believe it, whether or not that is a good or bad thing. anyway i was reading bits and pieces of the bible and it just has some flaws in it, lets list some shall we? QUOTE] You could watch the black & white movie "Inherit the Wind," I saw it on PBS recently and it makes a lot of good points, basically leaving it up to you and your perceptions, I think. It is great. I pretty much sum it up like this: Religion is good, it bonds people and gives people hope, but religion is bad and is the cause for war and fear and self-trepidation. There is a lot of power in a general understanding in the world's religions. It lets one observe and either agree or disagree, and take from the world's general beliefs and either agree or disagree and find a way of belief that makes you strive to be a good person. If you're going to believe in something, make it something for YOU and don't worry about feeling like you need to believe, worship, or otherwise support any given religion.

06-19-2009, 09:15 AM	#656 (permalink)
TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	It's a nice fairytale. Almost like a fable that you tell kids. Just like the boy who cries wolf teaches kids not to lie. Cristianty tells them not to be a cunt in life and they won't suffer in hell. It's as simple as that for me anyway. God = unpaid babysitter.

06-19-2009, 11:30 AM	#660 (permalink)
TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	I seem pretentious? I seem more ignorant than anything else. But just because I simplify it doesn't mean pretention or ignorance. Yes I've opened the bible. I liked the story about the snake and the apple tree. And the one about Samsun, who had strength in his hair. Lovely fairytales.