SugarRush

Science. Evolution. It pretty much explains everything with tangible evidence, legitimate methods and widely-accepted facts. All in logical manner which is practically indisputable. I still fail to understand how creationists claim to believe in this illusory God, of which no evidence exists. Sure you can say faith, but you need something to base your faith off of. The Bible is what I often hear, but in various sections is proves to be quite contradictory. How can you believe in something so strongly, but have no solid basis?

mr dave

how does science and evolution explain anything besides the known world? what does it explain about the unknown, the everything else.

did the electron not exist prior to being proven scientifically? even though the man who's credited at first theorizing about their existence died 18 years before his belief was proven true.

i understand atheist place their belief of what they see and feel in the hands of science. my question was in regards to explaining the unknown. does it just not matter until there's a laboratory experiment to tell you it does?

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Guybrush

I believe in what I think relates most reliably with what I know. If you put a cat in a box and close the lid, is there a cat in the box? Yes, I believe so because in my usual experience, if I open the box, there's the cat. Did the electron exist prior to people knowing about it? Yes, I believe so. I believe they are rather crucial now so I don't see why they shouldn't have been before we discovered them.

About ghosts and such, I have more experiences with suggestion and people being gullible than I have with ghosts. As for religious experiences, well - I feel pretty much the same.

I'm perhaps fortunate in that stuff that we'll never know doesn't really bother me. Thoughts like "is my life just a dream?" or "do things come into existence by us "discovering" them?" I find are easily dismissable. I feel quite confident in my beliefs.

I think I sometimes tend to apply occam's razor to a lot of what I believe in. What explanation requires the least assumptions? For example, a door suddenly closed in the dark and spooky house. What's the simplest explanation, that it got closed by the wind (assumes that the wind can get in and is capable of closing open doors) or that it was closed by a ghost (assumes there's an existence after death and that we're still able to manipulate doors from this existence) .. ?

I know from experience that wind can get into houses and close doors - it's a simpler explanation, so that's the one I'm going for.

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Thrice

Great post.
We have an old abandoned insane asylum in my town. Ive gone in and explored around alot. It very creepy. The idea of suggestion is soooo prevelant in such an atmosphere because that is what you expect. There are old underground tunnels that connect buildings with stalagtites (sp and might be mites) hanging from the ceiling. One time I thought I saw a small girl standing in the passage after a quick glance with my light. I can still see the image fresh in my mind, but about 5 seconds after it happened, I quickly dismissed the issue and thought logically about it. I dont believe there was anything standing there.

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Lew Harrison, who looked like an anarchist with his red eyes and fierce black beard, had been writing furiously in one corner of the room. "That's good—happiness by the kilowatt," he said. "Buy your happiness the way you buy light."

SATCHMO

So weird. I grew up in a town w/ an abandoned (partially) insane asylum that people thought was haunted. It had underground tunnels and we also used to explore it when we were kids to scare theshit out of ourselves.

Thrice

I saw the one in my town on the top ten haunted places on history channel or something and had to go. They have full time security there, so it makes it much more fun. The security cant really do anything other than call the cops. We have had to run/hide in the woods from cops for hours many a time. Its always a great time filled with beer, graffiti and girls.

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Lew Harrison, who looked like an anarchist with his red eyes and fierce black beard, had been writing furiously in one corner of the room. "That's good—happiness by the kilowatt," he said. "Buy your happiness the way you buy light."

SATCHMO

Mine got turned into a shock camp prison.

Thrice

Our are in a huge debate between town and state over who owns the land. They want to demolish the land and build 'Utopia' which is much like the East Coast vegas.

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Lew Harrison, who looked like an anarchist with his red eyes and fierce black beard, had been writing furiously in one corner of the room. "That's good—happiness by the kilowatt," he said. "Buy your happiness the way you buy light."

pahuuuta

the closest insane asylum i have to me is like a hour and a half away

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Whatsitoosit

what if no windows or other doors are open (no wind) and the item that is being slammed shut requires more force then a gust of wind in the first place? the safe/logical way can't always explain things. If I experience something that you don't, I wouldn't expect you, or anybody else, to have the same understanding. It takes experience (in anything) for a person to expand their mind... the same applies here.

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