Do you believe in ghosts?

The Monkey · 03-01-2010, 01:44 PM

One needs only to have experiences of drugs of the very weakest kind to know that the human brain can very easily create things which aren't there, and what we perceive of the world in many cases is very far from what actually happens. The brain will create or amplify sensations, visions or sounds if we expect it to happen, and/or if we are tense. If you sleep over in an old house that you've been hold is haunted, and you during the night hear a mouse fart in the wall, you're gonna think it's haunted too.

duga · 03-07-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

One needs only to have experiences of drugs of the very weakest kind to know that the human brain can very easily create things which aren't there, and what we perceive of the world in many cases is very far from what actually happens. The brain will create or amplify sensations, visions or sounds if we expect it to happen, and/or if we are tense. If you sleep over in an old house that you've been hold is haunted, and you during the night hear a mouse fart in the wall, you're gonna think it's haunted too.

Who's to say that drug induced hallucinations aren't real? Surely, they cannot be seen or felt in the "real" world, but I find it to be nothing but simple rationalization when everyone can disregard something simply because they took a drug. No one knows what the brain is doing when we modify the way it is functioning.

A popular theory amongst scientists studying the drug feel that DMT lets your mind peak into parallel worlds. This is the reason many see gnome or lizard creatures when they take it (different worlds mean different evolutionary paths).

Sincerely Yours · 03-09-2010, 12:24 AM

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Who's to say that drug induced hallucinations aren't real? Surely, they cannot be seen or felt in the "real" world, but I find it to be nothing but simple rationalization when everyone can disregard something simply because they took a drug. No one knows what the brain is doing when we modify the way it is functioning.

A popular theory amongst scientists studying the drug feel that DMT lets your mind peak into parallel worlds. This is the reason many see gnome or lizard creatures when they take it (different worlds mean different evolutionary paths).

Last semester I took a class that focused on space and a person's awareness/place in their "space" and this kind of goes along with it.

My professor was talking about driving one day. Basically, she said that there are times when you're driving and you're mind is focusing on something else. So, physically, you're driving a car, but YOU, your conscious self, isn't anywhere near that car.
And, of course, we read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (loveee) and discussed the entirely different reality that the two main characters shared in the same physical space.

I think the parallel world is kind of like that. It's not black or white. You can't just say that there are or aren't ghosts.

duga · 03-09-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sincerely Yours

Last semester I took a class that focused on space and a person's awareness/place in their "space" and this kind of goes along with it.

My professor was talking about driving one day. Basically, she said that there are times when you're driving and you're mind is focusing on something else. So, physically, you're driving a car, but YOU, your conscious self, isn't anywhere near that car.
And, of course, we read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (loveee) and discussed the entirely different reality that the two main characters shared in the same physical space.

I think the parallel world is kind of like that. It's not black or white. You can't just say that there are or aren't ghosts.

Yes! Exactly...driving is a perfect example. When first learning to drive, everyone is so uptight and nervous that we pay attention to absolutely everything we do. Once we are used to it, we space out and can sometimes end up forgetting an entire car trip. The most unsettling thing about it is how very important things like stopping at a stop sign or remembering to signal are easily forgettable. Next time you finish driving through a well known area, try to remember exactly how the trip went down. You won't be able to, your brain has effectively deemed driving a mundane task not worthy of the long and short term memory usage required to remember it.

Btw, I'm liking you more with each post...I hope you stick around.

Sincerely Yours · 03-09-2010, 01:31 AM

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Yes! Exactly...driving is a perfect example. When first learning to drive, everyone is so uptight and nervous that we pay attention to absolutely everything we do. Once we are used to it, we space out and can sometimes end up forgetting an entire car trip. The most unsettling thing about it is how very important things like stopping at a stop sign or remembering to signal are easily forgettable. Next time you finish driving through a well known area, try to remember exactly how the trip went down. You won't be able to, your brain has effectively deemed driving a mundane task not worthy of the long and short term memory usage required to remember it.

Btw, I'm liking you more with each post...I hope you stick around.

[: Thanks! I think I like it here.

As for the driving thing. I live about 45 minutes of highway driving away from my college and after a visit home, I was driving back and I was 10 minutes from my apartment when I realized I hadn't been paying attention at all during the drive. Luckily, the weather and traffic conditions were pretty clear. And I'm going to have to try that, I'll probably give up after like 5 minutes, but whatever.

CanwllCorfe · 03-07-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

One needs only to have experiences of drugs of the very weakest kind to know that the human brain can very easily create things which aren't there, and what we perceive of the world in many cases is very far from what actually happens. The brain will create or amplify sensations, visions or sounds if we expect it to happen, and/or if we are tense. If you sleep over in an old house that you've been hold is haunted, and you during the night hear a mouse fart in the wall, you're gonna think it's haunted too.

Ahh right! Anyone who believes in ghosts assumes anything out of the ordinary is automatically paranormal. You're getting the RATIONAL ones mixed up with people like Yvette Fielding from Most Haunted. She left the show saying "something (or someone) breathed on my ear" [inferring it was a ghost] and then was hysterical and had to leave. In post editing they found it was a moth.

All people who love country = incestuous rednecks
All people who love reggae = mindless marijuana smokers (who all have dreadlocks)
All people who love pop = annoying prepubescent girls

And so on. I've been in plenty of haunted places before and have never assumed anything to be paranormal.

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The Monkey Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 803	One needs only to have experiences of drugs of the very weakest kind to know that the human brain can very easily create things which aren't there, and what we perceive of the world in many cases is very far from what actually happens. The brain will create or amplify sensations, visions or sounds if we expect it to happen, and/or if we are tense. If you sleep over in an old house that you've been hold is haunted, and you during the night hear a mouse fart in the wall, you're gonna think it's haunted too. Last edited by The Monkey; 03-01-2010 at 02:05 PM.