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View Poll Results: Is suicide cowardly?
Yes 39 20.74%
No 79 42.02%
Sometimes, depends on the circumstances (kids etc.) 70 37.23%
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:58 PM   #451 (permalink)
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The act of suicide is incredibly stupid and it definitely takes balls to off yourself. Generally it is from mental issues or depression brought from a traumatic experience or experiences. For example, there have been bullied kids and there life is hell because they just get beat up everyday. There are tales I have read in the middle east of girls being raped and tortured and the girl is blamed for it happening to them. There are many more issues but those type of incidents cause trauma and lead to mental issues that make them feel death is freedom to them.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:24 PM   #452 (permalink)
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The act of suicide is incredibly stupid and it definitely takes balls to off yourself. Generally it is from mental issues or depression brought from a traumatic experience or experiences. For example, there have been bullied kids and there life is hell because they just get beat up everyday. There are tales I have read in the middle east of girls being raped and tortured and the girl is blamed for it happening to them. There are many more issues but those type of incidents cause trauma and lead to mental issues that make them feel death is freedom to them.
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Depression is not caused by "traumatic experiences"
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:35 PM   #453 (permalink)
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Depression is not caused by "traumatic experiences"
I disagree

if you go through a traumatic experience it can cause depression

I gave examples in my previous post of what could cause depression
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:39 PM   #454 (permalink)
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If you commit suicide, it can mean anything from wanting to get back at someone passive-aggressively, or even something as simple as being high/drunk. It doesn't necessarily mean you're mentally ill either. Saying you have to be mentally ill to kill yourself intentionally seems kind of ignorant to me.

Mental illness makes you irrational, but life can really suck. I can see how someone might kill themselves because they simply don't feel like living for X amount of years. Does that make them mentally ill because they don't have much going for them? Suicide only makes sense to the person who's dead.
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I dont know about being high and drunk and offing yourself LOL

I have been high and drunk and I believe I have never offed myself LOL
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:50 PM   #456 (permalink)
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Technically, someone who commits suicide would be considered a coward, but a life is a delicate thing for anyone else to try and tell you what to do with it. Committing suicide goes against everything biologically human since you're destroying what your basic human reactions are trying to preserve. Getting to that state psychologically has to be so intense that no one who's gonna tell you you're a coward is gonna understand it. If a person can't handle life, you can't just tell them they're a coward. It doesn't cover the depth of their problems.
Self preservation is so ingrained into our DNA so to go against that suggests a huge problem.

To be a callous **** and comment on this I would say that 90% of suicide attempts are cries for help and ultimately selfish (as well as being unsuccessful).

Unless it is the most disturbing life one person has been through, suicide is a cowards way out and even then someone, somewhere is out there to reach out a hand.
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Mental illness doesn't have to be permanent, it has to do with stress (or a brain that doesn't work how it should.) Suicide = Stress > Coping mechanisms.

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If you commit suicide, it can mean anything from wanting to get back at someone passive-aggressively, or even something as simple as being high/drunk. It doesn't necessarily mean you're mentally ill either. Saying you have to be mentally ill to kill yourself intentionally seems kind of ignorant to me.

Mental illness makes you irrational, but life can really suck. I can see how someone might kill themselves because they simply don't feel like living for X amount of years. Does that make them mentally ill because they don't have much going for them? Suicide only makes sense to the person who's dead.
I've never heard of a scenario where someone has killed themselves over being bored. Unless it's obviously some depressive state.

I can understand terminal illness but again, that's stress. I absolutely don't think it's mentally healthy to use suicide as a solution to solve your problems or instead of trying to find something going on for you in life. Neither is getting back at someone. That's either troubles with lack of motivation or social emotional stress.

If it is found out you're going to commit suicide you'll be admitted to an institution straight away no question.

Threatening suicide can be a call for attention, and also manipulative in cases. Committing suicide in cowardice is unreasonably twisted if fears are there to ensure your survival. No matter how complicated or delusional fear can be.
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if you go through a traumatic experience it can cause depression

I gave examples in my previous post of what could cause depression
No, it can't. It can only trigger a pre-existing condition, not actually cause it.
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No, it can't. It can only trigger a pre-existing condition, not actually cause it.
It can be both

a traumatic experience can cause depression and a feel for the need of suicide
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a traumatic experience can cause depression and a feel for the need of suicide
In terms of reactive depression experiences do cause it, but that's temporary and not a clinical disorder. Also just a normal reaction. Any chronic illness is caused by genetics, is biological or other illnesses. For example pot doesn't cause psychosis, it only triggers it as an onset. Psychosis is a pre-existing condition same as depression, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia.

I'm sure if you are talking about PTSD but that's also just another trigger for depression.
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