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Old 12-17-2011, 11:10 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Can't understand why anyone wouldn't like Ron Paul. The man is the most sensible candidate in this 2012 race.
He wants to abolish the welfare state, FEMA, public healthcare and the right to an education. He's an anarcho-capitalist.

I'm not sure you can call him a racist, although he does seem to believe racism is a civil liberty. Then again I don't follow American politics too closely.

Basically if it was any other country he'd be laughed off the stage.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:08 PM   #52 (permalink)
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He believes in New World Order conspiracy theories
Honestly, I've always been turned off with Ron Paul's whole 'tinfoil hat' attitude.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:37 PM   #53 (permalink)
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He's one of those guys? I never knew.

Well, I didn't think Ron Paul could get much lower on my list, but apparently he does. So now the big election choices are a corporate leech, a Bible-basher, a Tea Partier, a conspiracy theorist, a tea party/conspiracy theorist combo, and someone who may as well not get voted in again anyway as his last term has shown that the American public isn't willing to accept anything vaguely left. Good selection.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:43 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Y'all clearly don't know what you're talking about. He supports the right of gays to marry. He doesn't believe the government has any right to tell gays that they can't get married.

He's not a racist. In a debate this year, the subject of racially profiling people of middle-eastern descent was brought up. Many candidates believed that we should take part in racial profiling at airports, and only people of middle-eastern descent should be suspected as terrorists. Ron Paul stood up and defended the rights of those people and said that racial profiling is unjust and it shouldn't be done.

As for life beginning at conception, it certainly doesn't. Technically, life begins at the fertilization of an egg. However, the baby can also die while it is still in the womb. Just because the life of a fetus begins at fertilization doesn't mean that the fetus will make it to live outside of the womb. So, I think it can go both ways.

The idea of a NWO is certainly real.

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Old 12-17-2011, 04:47 PM   #55 (permalink)
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That being said, I find Gingrich, Romney, Bachmann, Perry, and the rest of the bunch unelectable and more dangerous than Paul. This whole 2012 election is going to stink. Even with all those points in mind, Paul still seems the LEAST dangerous of the Republican nominations. I don't know. We're damned if we keep Obama and we're damned if ANY of the Republicans running get elected. We're damned.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:49 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Y'all clearly don't know what you're talking about. He supports the right of gays to marry. He doesn't believe the government has any right to tell gays that they can't get married.
Not in any legal sense he doesn't. He is actually opposed to the federal government recognizing same-sex marriage.
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:00 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Not in any legal sense he doesn't. He is actually opposed to the federal government recognizing same-sex marriage.
He also doesn't support an amendment to the constitution that would protect the current definition of marriage. He personally believes in the traditional marriage of man and woman but he also believes that homosexuals should be allowed to marry in states that permit it. He has no intention of forcing his beliefs on anyone else.
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He wants to abolish the welfare state, FEMA, public healthcare and the right to an education. He's an anarcho-capitalist.

I'm not sure you can call him a racist, although he does seem to believe racism is a civil liberty. Then again I don't follow American politics too closely.

Basically if it was any other country he'd be laughed off the stage.
Not to get high on my white-bred American horse here, but he'd be laughed off the stage because he'd be coming from way out in left field. Here he has a precedent for his positions.

But you're creating a strawman in some of these statements. He's never said that Racism is a civil right, he just believes that freedom of speech defends peoples right to make racist statements.

And thats why Ron Paul deserves more credit that he gets, because he understands and puts into practice the idea that rights are there to protect people when needed, not when they want to throw a garden party.

We need the 2nd Amendment when some lunatic goes on a shooting spree. We need the 1st Amendment when the local police force throws citizens out of public parks. And we need the 3rd Amendment to tell the British to go **** themselves.

He has said things that give me pause. And I'd never vote for him in a general election, but I love that hes in congress and we need more of him. If I were Speaker, I'd make him Chairman of the Ethics Committee.
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But you're creating a strawman in some of these statements. He's never said that Racism is a civil right, he just believes that freedom of speech defends peoples right to make racist statements.
not allowing non-whites on to your premises is more than just a statement. His defense was that any business that went down that road wouldn't last long anyway, his intention wasn't to support it, he felt business wouldn't be stupid enough to do it in this day and age so there was no need for it.
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He also doesn't support an amendment to the constitution that would protect the current definition of marriage. He personally believes in the traditional marriage of man and woman but he also believes that homosexuals should be allowed to marry in states that permit it. He has no intention of forcing his beliefs on anyone else.
But he's perfectly fine with states refusing to recognize same-sex marriage. That's the problem.
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