grindy

You still haven't explained what's racist about the magazine.
I think the cartoons are crude and unfunny, but there is nothing racist about them.

And why the hell is this

described as being racist?

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John Wilkes Booth

i try to stay on the opposing side of bill donohue on every issue as a rule. he's a loudmouthed whiney catholic twat imo.

Trollheart

Okay I'm going to try this again. I wrote a response yesterday but the damn thing disappeared into cyberspace. Here we go:

The thing that annoys me most about this is the reaction, the sudden belief that this is/was an attack on free speech. Hell it was. This was not some people defending free speech. Free speech is still alive and you can say anything you want, but some subjects are and always will be taboo. If you set out deliberately to insult, mock or hurt someone whom you KNOW is going to take it badly --- and I mean badly --- then are you not setting yourself up for something like this? Everyone is now jumping on the bandwagon, rabbiting on about free speech. Nobody is considering saying “these guys were knobs: they pushed and poked Islamic fundamentalism until finally they provoked a reaction, and in this case a fatal one.”

I would not want to cheapen the memory of those who died, but consider this: there were police officers killed too, and they were only there to protect these idiots, who had already received death threats. So essentially, the journalists and cartoonists were saying that the lives of these public servants were worth less than their vaunted “right to express themselves”. Does that not say something in itself?

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The Batlord

You're right, and you know what else I think? I think women should show some common sense when going out at night. Why should you be surprised when you get raped when you're wearing miniskirts and low cut blouses and thongs? Don't poke the rape bear.

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Chula Vista

Publishing a cartoon of Mohammed getting boned in the butt by an Israeli, or making out with a male staff member of the magazine, is akin to a picture of Obama holding a banana with a bone through his nose.

Racism 101.

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Chula Vista

Extremely bad analogy.

How about the woman that counsels a group of convicted rapists? How should she dress?

Or the only white dude living in a black neighborhood. Should he wear a "N*ggers Suck" T-shirt while taking a walk just because it's his right? Sure, go ahead and wear it buddy. Just don't complain when you get your ass whipped.

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Cuthbert

It's not racist, it could be considered Islamophobic but it's definitely not racist. You get white, black, Arab Muslims, ones born here and in other countries, all nationalities & races.

Can't be bullied into censorship just cos some of them are delicate little flowers who respond with violence.

Batty I agree with that post btw.

Well it's tragic what happened but if you mock Islam and the prophet what do you expect? = apologist shite.

Urban Hat€monger ?

And does that apply to Salman Rushdie who was also on their list of people who they wanted dead ?

I don't recall him drawing any pictures like that so does your analogy apply to him too?

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Trollheart

Well that's very specific, and I'm surprised at you Urban. I never said that anyone who gets attacked by Islamic fundamentalists deserved it, or did anything to provoke it. What I did say is that in this case, they made easy targets of themselves, and while I do not condone what happened, to make out that they're somehow victims (sic) of a repression of free speech is really simplifying what happened and only looking at it from one side. I do have sympathy for them, but they did kind of bring it on themselves. You can't do that sort of thing and then not expect retaliation.

As for Rushdie, didn't he blaspheme in his book? Even if he did, that wasn't as overt as what these guys did: as I said before, they basically said "We're gonna do what we like, insult who we like, and **** you." And now everyone's whining about free speech. It's not free speech, it's very bad judgement and a belief that they could do and say what they wanted. The reaction was of course extreme, but then, that's why they're called extremists. And nobody has responded to my point about the police officers killed. Did they deserve to die just because some smart **** wanted to show how smart and arrogant he was??

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James

I honestly can't believe people are justifying murder in here.