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Cuthbert 11-19-2016 07:08 AM

Can't we just have a thread title change?

'Congratulations President Daddy' :cool:

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-19-2016 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1770739)
Natural Born Troll.

I like it, that'll be the title of my autobiography.

Janszoon 11-19-2016 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1770739)
Natural Born Troll.

Can we switch to a new thread to bitch about Trump since he is already prez.

I don't like constantly having to go back to the 4 prez thread to talk shit about his nominations.


Anyways **** Sessions.
"Good people don't smoke Marijuana" he also says that he wants to crack down on it hard to show people it is really a dangerous drug. I have a feeling he low key smokes and is just being a huge hypocrite about it. So all those states that just recently passed bills making it legal can expect more Federal raids to roll through since it is still illegal on a Federal level.

Sessions is an asshat.

The Batlord 11-19-2016 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1770739)
Natural Born Troll.

Can we switch to a new thread to bitch about Trump since he is already prez.

I don't like constantly having to go back to the 4 prez thread to talk shit about his nominations.


Anyways **** Sessions.
"Good people don't smoke Marijuana" he also says that he wants to crack down on it hard to show people it is really a dangerous drug. I have a feeling he low key smokes and is just being a huge hypocrite about it. So all those states that just recently passed bills making it legal can expect more Federal raids to roll through since it is still illegal on a Federal level.

I see him more as doing coke just for the status.

Tristan_Geoff 11-19-2016 09:05 AM


The Batlord 11-19-2016 09:19 AM

Jello Biafra is now the least punk rock looking man on earth. He reminds me of my gay world history teacher from high school.

Frownland 11-19-2016 09:22 AM

Voter Suppression: Jello Biafra Needs More Room on Write-In Section of Ballot

OccultHawk 11-19-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1770776)
Jello Biafra is now the least punk rock looking man on earth. He reminds me of my gay world history teacher from high school.

First off that album he made with The Melvins is an absolute unforgivable travesty. Second, even if you can kind of relate to what he's talking about he's such an egomaniac you would rather kick his teeth in than listen. Third, your history teacher probably was more genuinely punk.

I still like The Dead Kennedys though. I bought Frankenchrist when it came out and still have the Penis Landscape poster.

Psy-Fi 11-19-2016 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1770776)
Jello Biafra is now the least punk rock looking man on earth. He reminds me of my gay world history teacher from high school.

He reminds me of a couple of disheveled middle-aged male friends of mine with chronic verbal diarrhea that I've known since high school.

The Batlord 11-19-2016 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1770777)

That was pretty good until the end when it got great.

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“Oh an ‘angry bomb’ ballot? That’s what we call them,” Harold James, another poll volunteer, said. “Yeah, we get a bunch of those. It said ‘RIGGED SYSTEM’ in sharpie on it so I just put it in the Trump box.”

Chula Vista 11-19-2016 11:04 AM

I can't decide who is scarier. Darth Bannon for obvious reasons, creationist Spence who's going to want to shove Bibles down everyone's throat, Sessions turning the civil rights clock back 30 years, or Flynn, the hawkish hothead with questionable ties to Russia and Turkey:

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Flynn has been heavily criticized for attending a gala last year in Moscow celebrating the 10th anniversary of the state-sponsored news agency Russia Today. Flynn has appeared on and been interviewed by Russia Today more than once, and he has said he "absolutely agrees" that the US and Russia need to work together to defeat ISIS.

Russia intervened in Syria on behalf of Syrian president Bashar Assad in September 2015, nearly five years into the country's brutal civil war. Though Russia touted its involvement as an anti-ISIS operation, the vast majority of its airstrikes over the past year have targeted rebels fighting Assad in western Syria who have no association with the jihadist group.

Rep. Adam Schiff, of California, the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, said in a statement Friday that he was "deeply concerned" about Flynn's views on Russia, which, he said, "over the last twelve months have demonstrated the same fondness for the autocratic and belligerent Kremlin which animate President-elect Trump's praise of Vladimir Putin."

A consulting firm Flynn founded with his son after he retired, Flynn Intel Group — a registered lobbying organization — also has ties to Turkey's increasingly authoritarian president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, through one of its clients, Kamil Ekim Alptekin.

Alptekin chairs the Turkish-American Business Council, whose members are chosen by Turkish government officials, and helped organize Erdogan's visit to Washington earlier this year.

Alptekin told The Intercept on Thursday that his company, Inovo BV, which is based in the Netherlands, paid Flynn's firm thousands of dollars for analysis beginning in August — the same month Flynn began sitting in on classified intelligence briefings with Trump, the News reported on Thursday.

Alptekin insisted that Flynn Intel Group had not been lobbying for his company, but the firm is registered as a lobbyist for Inovo BV, as The Intercept reported.

OccultHawk 11-19-2016 11:13 AM

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I can't decide who is scarier. Darth Bannon for obvious reasons, creationist Spence who's going to want to shove Bibles down everyone's throat, Sessions turning the civil rights clock back 30 years, or Flynn, the hawkish hothead with questionable ties to Russia and Turkey:
Sessions will play the most significant role in our transformation to totalitarianism.

Goofle 11-19-2016 11:33 AM

Y'all crazy as f*ck man.

OccultHawk 11-19-2016 11:41 AM

Kanye:

Chula Vista 11-19-2016 11:47 AM

JUNE 14, 2017
BREAKING NEWS
TRUMP SIGNS BILL TO REVISE MOUNT RUSHMORE


http://i.imgur.com/VRsn24h.jpg

Chula Vista 11-19-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1770824)
Y'all crazy as f*ck man.

You alt-right as f*ck Goofle.

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1770829)

We all have flaws.

The Batlord 11-19-2016 12:01 PM

I think being supported by Kanye is a bigger flaw than any of us ever bargained for.

Goofle 11-19-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1770832)
JUNE 14, 2017
BREAKING NEWS
TRUMP SIGNS BILL TO REVISE MOUNT RUSHMORE


http://i.imgur.com/VRsn24h.jpg

lol Trump ain't left wing like them lot. He'd pick proper right wing fascists, if there are any.

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 12:11 PM

The American Republican party!

Chula Vista 11-19-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1770842)
lol Trump ain't left wing like them lot. He'd pick proper right wing fascists, if there are any.

Repeat after me: Totalitarianism

Goofle 11-19-2016 12:12 PM

@ Lucem: Understand fascism plz

@ Chula: k

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 12:14 PM

an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization?

Blank. 11-19-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1770845)
Repeat after me: Totalitarianism

Democrat... totalitarianism.... I fail to see any difference.

Goofle 11-19-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1770848)
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization?

No, that's not fascism. It's bad though, even if it doesn't exactly represent the Republican Party.

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1770848)
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization?

Sounds a lot like American Republicans to me.

The Batlord 11-19-2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1770850)
No, that's not fascism. It's bad though, even if it doesn't exactly represent the Republican Party.

That is literally the dictionary definition of fascism, cut and pasted from an online dictionary.

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1770850)
No, that's not fascism. It's bad though, even if it doesn't exactly represent the Republican Party.

That's the literal definition of fascism from google...

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by the batlord (Post 1770854)
that is literally the dictionary definition of fascism, cut and pasted from an online dictionary.

lol

The Batlord 11-19-2016 12:22 PM

I've heard this spiel before though. For some reason right wingers are obsessed with proving that liberals are within spitting distance of fascists and Nazis. A lot of Christians do the same thing with atheists. Liberalism might have some small similarities to fascism, but the right is most definitely the side with the Nazi-adjacent mindset, so please spare us your self-indulgent bull****.

Goofle 11-19-2016 12:24 PM

Lean to etymology.

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1770859)
I've heard this spiel before though. For some reason right wingers are obsessed with proving that liberals are within spitting distance of fascists and Nazis. A lot of Christians do the same thing with atheists.

I think that goes both ways.

But a lot of that comes from the fact that Hitler was a socialist.

What's retarded about it is that they they say that they say the left will lead to totalitarianism because the believe in the socialist ideas that Hitler used to bring Germany out of poverty...

...as they celebrate the altruistic and nationalist ideas that Hitler used to create Nazis...

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1770861)
Lean to etymology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymological_fallacy

The Batlord 11-19-2016 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1770861)
Lean to etymology.

Learn to political science. Yes there is semi-public ownership of business, but that is motivated by nationalism since all businesses should serve the cause of the state, and not any kind of socialist fuzzy wuzzy ideology about workers' rights or giving them the means of production. Fascism could give a **** about workers' rights cause of its belief in social Darwinism, which the left most certainly does not (but the right does).

It's basically quasi-socialist policy dictated by far right wing ideology. And the generally incestuous history of high level corporate and political leaders in fascist societies is also not particularly left wing.

Xurtio 11-19-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1770863)
I think that goes both ways.

But a lot of that comes from the fact that Hitler was a socialist.

What's retarded about it is that they they say that they say the left will lead to totalitarianism because the believe in the socialist ideas that Hitler used to bring Germany out of poverty...

...as they celebrate the altruistic and nationalist ideas that Hitler used to create Nazis...

Yeah, Hitler was decidedly afraid of red.

I remember my History teacher in high school showed us something like this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oAdFio7qrt...rcle_small.jpg

edit: though I wish the above had liberal and conservative instead of democrat and republican. As parties are not ideologies, but seek to represent (or at least pretend to represent) the ideologies.

The Batlord 11-19-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1770863)
I think that goes both ways.

But a lot of that comes from the fact that Hitler was a socialist.

What's retarded about it is that they they say that they say the left will lead to totalitarianism because the believe in the socialist ideas that Hitler used to bring Germany out of poverty...

...as they celebrate the altruistic and nationalist ideas that Hitler used to create Nazis...

A bastardized form of socialism entirely governed by the pragmatic concerns of a single leader. Hitler didn't even really stick to the fascist economic plan either, since businesses were meant to be overseen by government but still be technically autonomous. It just didn't work out that way.

Xurtio 11-19-2016 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1770868)
A bastardized form of socialism entirely governed by the pragmatic concerns of a single leader. Hitler didn't even really stick to the fascist economic plan either, since businesses were meant to be overseen by government but still be technically autonomous. It just didn't work out that way.

Once that happened, it wasn't socialism anymore. It was totalitarianism. The point critics often make is that socialism can lead to totalitarianism because it's exploitable.

Goofle 11-19-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1770866)
Learn to political science. Yes there is semi-public ownership of business, but that is motivated by nationalism since all businesses should serve the cause of the state, and not any kind of socialist fuzzy wuzzy ideology about workers' rights or giving them the means of production. Fascism could give a **** about workers' rights cause of its belief in social Darwinism, which the left most certainly does not (but the right does).

It's basically quasi-socialist policy dictated by far right wing ideology. And the generally incestuous history of high level corporate and political leaders in fascist societies is also not particularly left wing.

My issue is with the term "right-wing" being used within the definition, because we both know that fascism shouldn't solely be used specifically for one side or the other.

These are the best definitions I have come across: Fascism | Definition of Fascism by Merriam-Webster and http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fascism

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Xurtio (Post 1770869)
Once that happened, it wasn't socialism anymore. It was totalitarianism. The point critics often make is that socialism can lead to totalitarianism because it's exploitable.

Anything is exploitable. The silly thing is that Democrats, like Obama, bend over backwards for Republicans so they can properly represent all of America while Republicans don't give a **** and do what they want. Which is totalitarian in my opinion.

Lucem Ferre 11-19-2016 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1770870)
My issue is with the term "right-wing" being used within the definition, because we both know that fascism shouldn't solely be used specifically for one side or the other.

These are the best definitions I have come across: Fascism | Definition of Fascism by Merriam-Webster and Fascism | Define Fascism at Dictionary.com

I agree. And Merriam-Webster is much more reliable and trustworthy than google.

But it doesn't negate my point that American Republicans are pretty fascist.


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